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Update Regarding This Sunday's Mt. Hood Trip, (incl. Schedule of important times)

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For the TLDR crowd, here's the short version:

1. Mt. Defiance is a challengIng, but doable track, with a beautiful view at the end.

2. @av8or is a really good guy.

3. @portland rivian new is wonderful at organizing & planning any number of things, herding cats, and tolerating my luddite nature.

4. The time needed for the Mt. Defiance route will split us up, which still works. If interested, make sure to start the journey with a pretty decent charge.

5. The weather is slated to worsen, which may make offroading slower.

6. The schedule is as follows:

- The caravan will leave Edgefield at 10:30 Sunday morning. Feel free to join me for breakfast beforehand, at the Black Rabbit restaurant inside the hotel

- We should be at the ElectrifyAmerica station in Sandy by 11:00.

- We plan to arrive at Timberline Lodge around Noon. A few people have expressed that they may meet us there.. From Timberline, we'll stop at Trillium Lake before heading to around the mountain to Hood River.

- Whether someone chooses to summit Mt. Defiance or head to the riverfront, the plan is to meet back at the Power Station at Edgefield to relax.

- For those interested only in the gathering at end of the trip, please let me know and I'll give you a heads-up an hour before we get to Edgefield.

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If that wasn't long enough, here's the full version of recent events related to this Sunday's trip:

Through happenstance, @av8or and I connected yesterday morning and found that we were both heading out the door to test the route. We ended up going together in my R1T to Hood River to try out the Mt. Defiance Trail. It was a great day for it, although the smoke grew heavier throughout our journey.

I want to take a moment right now to say how thankful I was to have @av8or's vast offroading experience available, as he's a great teacher of how to safely maneuver once the pavement's in the rear view mirror. Being a newbie at this, it was invaluable for me to get lessons at every step. Also, having never met before, we also had great conversation all along the way.

After bumping up the charge to 70% at the ElectrifyAmerica station in Hood River, we took off to take on Mt. Defiance. We left H.R. a little before 12:30 to find the trailhead. The navigation system had us there in about 30 minutes, up an easy gravel road Southwest of town. As listed in the trail notes, you pass through an old gate to begin the low-speed climb to the summit.

It is a slow, steep slog to the top over a very bumpy road of good-sized rock. You need to pick your path carefully over the surface to avoid the sharp rocks used to make this track. There currently isn't much to worry about with respect to hitting your skidplate when in Rock Crawl mode (with 15 inches of clearance dialed-up) as long as you choose the right line. That said, the tire sidewalls are at risk due to the size and shape of rocks you'll encounter most all of the way up and back.

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We stopped early along the 1.6 mile "road" to air down the tires to about 30 psi. This helped improve the grip and soften the ride considerably. The Rivian had no trouble slowly climbing to the summit, but the "20-minute" duration mentioned in the guide apparently refers to just the drivetime from the gate to the top. It doesn't appear to include the time to come back down, which the Rivian performed flawlessly. Further, they're likely referencing someone with more experience and they're not accounting for the time needed to reach the gate, and the roughly 15 minutes needed to air-down the tires and another 15 to air them back up once you return to the pavement.

Our best guess is that adding this side-trip to this Sunday's drive will add at least two hours, and likely more time to charge, to comfortably get back to Edgefield. With the weather changing, doing this in the wet will only make it slower. I'm also guessing the view may not be there, due to clouds.

Accordingly, if folks want to do Mt. Defiance on Sunday, those of us passing on it will hit the riverfront on the The Hook in Hood River. We can also hit pFriem Family Brewers Restaurant, which is at 707 Portway Ave 101, Hood River, a few blocks from The Hook, if folks are up for it. Even if we split the group, we can meet up at the Power Station in the back Edgefield for burgers, pizza, or whatever, and visit for a bit before heading home.

Thanks to the insights and drive of @portland rivian new, a schedule of upcoming dates to save for the next several months will follow shortly. We'll include driving events and local get-togethers, all to make it easier to avoid scheduling conflicts.

Of course anyone wanting to lead an offroading adventure or any kind of gathering should post it here, and in Rivian Stories, as well as the many other social media sites developed by Rivian folks. I'm not one for reinventing the wheel, so if someone has a great idea of how best to insure communiques reach all of us, please advise. Even posting messages in all of the usual places still results in people missing them, which means they miss these events. My goal is to build some great adventures to be had, and make certain everyone knows about them.

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Thanks for the kind words @DuckTruck . I had a great time and really enjoyed the conversation. The road up to the top of Mt. Defiance is a really good “first” off-road for anyone new to off-roading. It’s fairly steep and rocky with some larger rocks here and there to avoid, but no worries off scratching the paint as the road is wide and well cleared. It was an absolute breeze for the R1T.……which by the way is a BEAST.
Quick side note we used about 19% soc going up from Hood River (HD) to the summit (68%-49%), but with regen we got back to HR with the same soc 49%. I am very impressed with the R1T capability’s and efficiency. We left HR with 68%, drove about 2 hours to get to and up a fairly demanding trail in complete comfort, then back to HR, then all the way to Tigard a total time just over 5 hours and ended up at 19%. Nothing wrong with any of that! ? It makes me impatient for mine. Thanks again DT and I look forward to the next one.
 
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Hey!

I am still considering joining this adventure. How many folks are going?
Jump in, @joelster!

It should be great fun. I don't have a headcount as of yet. In the future, I'll do a better job of incorporating an RSVP set-up. While that's not a big need for a driving event (no seating reservations, etc.), it would be nice to have solid numbers.

There will be plenty of Rivians. I hope everyone who intends on going chimes in here. That would include all who will be driving Rivians, those who want to drive their non-Rivians, and reservation holders looking to catch a ride in a Rivian. Also, please tell us at which stop you'll be joining the party.

For everyone considering this trip, please let your intentions be know here, including available seats.

I look at this like a sports event. The only bad seat is an empty seat.

Let's roll!
 
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Thanks for the king words @DuckTruck . I had a great time and really enjoyed the conversation. The road up to the top of Mt. Defiance is a really good “first” off-road for anyone new to off-roading. It’s fairly steep and rocky with some larger rocks here and there to avoid, but no worries off scratching the paint as the road is wide and well cleared. It was an absolute breeze for the R1T.……which by the way is a BEAST.
Quick side note we used about 19% soc going up from Hood River (HD) to the summit (68%-49%), but with regen we got back to HR with the same soc 49%. I am very impressed with the R1T capability’s and efficiency. We left HR with 68%, drove about 2 hours to get to and up a fairly demanding trail in complete comfort, then back to HR, then all the way to Tigard a total time just over 5 hours and ended up at 19%. Nothing wrong with any of that! ? It makes me impatient for mine. Thanks again DT and I look forward to the next one.
@av8or,

Thanks for filling in all of the details. I think we were both blown away by the trail and how well the Rivian handled it. One of the coolest parts of the trip for me was coming down the steepest stretch (reportedly 20⁰) just leaving the summit. In Rock Crawl mode, with High Regen on, and Hold turned off, the R1T casually walked over every rock at 3-4 mph, all while my feet were off of both the Brake and Exhilarator pedals.

All one finger needed to steer us down the hill, with no drama and only the crunching of the rocks underneath as a soundtrack. Ironically, we were listening to The Rolling Stones at the time.

The entire day was a wonderful experience!
 

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My wife and I are going for the entire trip starting with breakfast at Edgefield. We will be in my Wrangler most likely (unless there happens to be a lot of empty seats and they want to fill them). I do keep many recovery and repair items in my Jeep, so having it with us might be good. Hopefully we have no need for any of it.
 

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I am planning on it, maybe my GF too. We have my FJ but if there is passenger room in a Riviot's backseat we might park mine at a nearby property.
 

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Chris and I are planning on meeting up with y'all at Timberline Lodge!! :clap: We're coming from E. WA. Not sure if we'd have any empty seats, since we'll be packed for staying overnight in HR (no tonneau cover ya know :p so the back seat will probably be full) and we'll have our camera equipment/drone pack, too.
 

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So are there people confirmed that want to do the offroad proposal? I get the feeling that @DuckTruck had his fill of offroading for the week.

As a side note I was out hiking this afternoon east of Hood and decided to drive back over gunsight ridge and Bennett pass. Took about 2 hours, mostly easy for a R1 but some sections have some pucker factor. Imagine it would be worse in slippery conditions.

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So are there people confirmed that want to do the offroad proposal? I get the feeling that @DuckTruck had his fill of offroading for the week.
If my stock FJ could do it safely, I would be interested but weather complications seem 50/50 on Sunday? If there is room in a Riv with experienced driver I would be interested in riding and learning along the way as a plan B for the offroad. ;)
 

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So are there people confirmed that want to do the offroad proposal? I get the feeling that @DuckTruck had his fill of offroading for the week.

As a side note I was out hiking this afternoon east of Hood and decided to drive back over gunsight ridge and Bennett pass. Took about 2 hours, mostly easy for a R1 but some sections have some pucker factor. Imagine it would be worse in slippery conditions.

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I'd say I got a great taste of offroading yesterday, but not my fill of it. That said, I'd prefer not to do the same track again so soon. I am glad to have done it, and to be able to give some guidance as to the trail option for this week. I've heard from some that they're up for the drive, but they don't yet have a suitable vehicle for the dirty work, so I'm choosing to hit the Riverfront area in Hood River with these people.

I'd really appreciate someone with experience leading those who want to take on Mt. Defiance. It's a great trip, although we'll see what the first big rain of the season has in store for that path and the view from the top. If it's not the best time to do it this weekend, I'd come back for another run at it with a group of any size.

With this being the first open driving event I'm aware of for the area, I'm trying to get as many people as possible to show up, get out and about for the day, and get to know one another. This local community is still quite young, and growing quickly. Many are saying this is their first event, and some indicated they've yet to even see a Rivian.

As I said previously, future events will be offroad specific for the Bennett Passes of the world. To me, that just makes sense. I thought I'd throw the offroad option in here, and hope many want to take it. If so, I think it's best to have something for the non-offroaders to do, rather than simply waiting for the offroaders to finish and return. I especially did not want people to shy away from this Sunday because it was all about the offroading. For me, it's about connecting.

If someone wants to build a survey with all of the various options (offroading, their start & end points, seats needed/available, etc.), I'd love it. I'll make certain to do so for future events. I don't know how many want to go up Mt. Defiance on this trip, just that many sound interested.

It would be nice if every attendee would post their answers to those questions above here, but whether it's three or ten, I'd say go and enjoy it as much as we did yesterday. I'd love to hear the stories and see the pics when we reunite at Edgefield.

If you're good with it, I'd appreciate you leading that group to the top and back, if you're up for it. I'm also looking forward to hearing and seeing more pics regarding Gunsight and Bennett Pass. Your pics and comments make it seem really tempting.

Thanks!

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I take it that this trail is unadvisable for those of us with the 21" Street Tires?
 

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If I wake up early enough (will have to work late Saturday,) I'll show up for the breakfast and drive to Sandy, then head home instead of taking the full drive. (Got a playoff game to go to at 2 PM.)
 

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My wife and I will plan to join the group. I'm guessing my Oct-Dec R1S delivery window won't narrow in a meaningful way between now and Sunday, unfortunately. We'd be happy to warm available
Rivian seats if there are any, but if not, I'll pilot the Jeep. Either way should be a lot of fun! We can meet up either at Edgefield or Sandy.
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