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After reading through most of the comments posted in that link, I came to a couple of conclusions:

1) Like everything else, the unhappy people post much more often than the happy people. So the number of unhappy comments posted is not an accurate indicator of job satifaction at Rivian.

2) The complaints were pretty much in line with everything I hear from production workers at the dozens of various factories we do engineering work at every year. "Management doesn't communicate, not paid enough, work too hard, managment doesn't care, etc."

So IMO Rivian is probably about average working conditions, and they have good, average, and slacker employees. Maybe Rivian could/should be better, but sounds like it could be A LOT worse. I've seen A LOT worse. We have a customer who experienced 50% turnover of their production staff in the past 12 months, and I know for a fact it was more related to the availability of quality workers, not so much a bad management issue.
 

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Here is a sample of comments on the Facebook post:

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Thanks for sharing, read a few of those, sounds like most are not actually employees. See EV bashing, union touting, general negativity, in other words typical forums/online noise.

I did enjoy the union contract letter, especially complaining about the raise. They get 7% after signing, then 3 years of 4%. Person was complaining about dues going up by 2% and retirement share going up by 1.8 % saying that eats up most of the raise, clearly not a mathematician unless of course 100% of their pay goes towards those dues. ??
 

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Layoffs do that at a company, especially if handled poorly. Moral is not good at my company right now either.
I work for the state. What's morale?
 

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After reading through most of the comments posted in that link, I came to a couple of conclusions:

1) Like everything else, the unhappy people post much more often than the happy people. So the number of unhappy comments posted is not an accurate indicator of job satifaction at Rivian.

2) The complaints were pretty much in line with everything I hear from production workers at the dozens of various factories we do engineering work at every year. "Management doesn't communicate, not paid enough, work too hard, managment doesn't care, etc."

So IMO Rivian is probably about average working conditions, and they have good, average, and slacker employees. Maybe Rivian could/should be better, but sounds like it could be A LOT worse. I've seen A LOT worse. We have a customer who experienced 50% turnover of their production staff in the past 12 months, and I know for a fact it was more related to the availability of quality workers, not so much a bad management issue.
I’m retired now, but I can’t begin to estimate how many hours I spent over my corporate career analyzing annual employee opinion survey results, reviewing and discussing results with teams of employees, developing corrective action plans with employee teams, following up on implementation, rinse and repeat year after year. Shareholders and customers don’t ever see these survey results, but they surely impact overall financial results and help explain why our $80-$100k R1’s are too often being delivered with assembly quality issues.
 

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These comments are to be expected. You could roll out the red carpet for your employees and give them everything but it isn't good enough. I've also worked for employers who ran their companies like a gulag. I don't put too much stock in any of this stuff personally. There's three sides to every story the two parties involved and the truth.

Couple that with the federal reserve who is creating these economic conditions on purpose. The whole point of cooling off the economy was to change the employment market from one where there were tons of jobs and no employees to one with a more balanced labor force. That means some jobs are going to go away and many people are going to wind up taking pay cuts.
 

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Late last year we switched to a new HR, scheduling and timeclock platform that included a feature where employees could “rate” their shift (1-5 stars) when they clock out. We left the feature turned on because we were curious if it would help alert us to anyone who might need us to reach out to them Even if they won’t come talk to us first.

To our surprise no one used the rating system at all for like 2 months, until one day someone who just had a coaching from her manager for being habitually late and generally having a terrible attitude, borderline bullying her coworkers decided to rate her shift a 1.

We turned it off the next day.

Some of those Rivian employees and their comments remind me of her. I’m not saying Rivian doesn’t have to try to keep their people happy. Just that some people would rather complain than be happy.
 

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Late last year we switched to a new HR, scheduling and timeclock platform that included a feature where employees could “rate” their shift (1-5 stars) when they clock out. We left the feature turned on because we were curious if it would help alert us to anyone who might need us to reach out to them Even if they won’t come talk to us first.

To our surprise no one used the rating system at all for like 2 months, until one day someone who just had a coaching from her manager for being habitually late and generally having a terrible attitude, borderline bullying her coworkers decided to rate her shift a 1.

We turned it off the next day.

Some of those Rivian employees and their comments remind me of her. I’m not saying Rivian doesn’t have to try to keep their people happy. Just that some people would rather complain than be happy.
Exactly. I've had employees get yelled at for no call no shows or showing up drunk and getting talked to. You have to take these comments with a grain of salt for sure. Especially the so and so is lazy and I do all the work type comments.
 

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Exactly. I've had employees get yelled at for no call no shows or showing up drunk and getting talked to. You have to take these comments with a grain of salt for sure. Especially the so and so is lazy and I do all the work type comments.
Yep. Every time someone gets a promotion or even a lateral move others make those kinds of comments. Then they try to undermine those people as much as possible. They don’t want to hear about why they didn’t get chosen so they can use it to improve - only take cheap shots at those who did. Which for us is a sure way to never get a chance to advance.
 

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On one hand, the most vocal are often the least useful.

on the other, startup culture mixed with manufacturing boys club machismo is a bad combination making for highly toxic workplaces.
 

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Y'all be crazy. I love working for my uncle! I get to travel often, 3 square meals a day cooked for me, daily physical fitness time, and after 20 years I'll keep getting half my paycheck until I die!

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Or you could work for your uncle making license plates, no travel, 3 square meals a day cooked for me, daily physical fitness and after 20 years you’ll get out and have to meet weekly with your transition coordinator asking why you can’t get a real job.
 

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Or you could work for your uncle making license plates, no travel, 3 square meals a day cooked for me, daily physical fitness and after 20 years you’ll get out and have to meet weekly with your transition coordinator asking why you can’t get a real job.
They aren't mutually exclusive ?
I work in the old brig, my office is a former holding cell.
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