Roll Call for the App - Android versus iOS

[svet-am]

I'm not debating that at all, but a mobile app to support phone as key or remote charge control/monitoring is fundamentally different than the IVI supporting CarPlay or Android Auto.

100% agreed here. If that were the case, I'd be truly pissed. All I really want is USB support so I can play my own content from USB sticks. I _might_ stream from Bluetooth but that typically kills audio fidelity. I don't use Spotify or any of the other streaming services at all.

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[skyote]

Oh yes! They are quite a bit still around. BlackBerry owns QNX. QNX is _the premier_ software platform (think like MS Windows or MacOS) used in vehicles, particularly in the functional safety domain.

They also bought Cylance, who was the first innovator to use machine learning/AI in the "next gen" antivirus space. BB has definitely diversified and found other ways to make money. I will say though, the old BES email was secure & fairly reliable.

It’s in a drawer or the glovebox or whatever.

It won't be in the glovebox of a Rivian. ?

 

[crashmtb]

They also bought Cylance, who was the first innovator to use machine learning/AI in the "next gen" antivirus space. BB has definitely diversified and found other ways to make money. I will say though, the old BES email was secure & fairly reliable.



It won't be in the glovebox of a Rivian. ?

I’m calling the little underseat drawer a glovebox from now on.

 

[skyote]

I’m calling the little underwear drawer a glovebox from now on.

Haha, I'm stealing that term. And likely appropriate, as my passengers may very well need a fresh pair from time to time!

 

[crashmtb]

Haha, I'm stealing that term. And likely appropriate, as my passengers may very well need a fresh pair from time to time!

UnderSEAT. Forking autocompost!!

 

[electruck]

UnderSEAT. Forking autocompost!!

Ironically, saw this at our favorite pizza+beer spot recently:

 

[electruck]

Haha, I'm stealing that term. And likely appropriate, as my passengers may very well need a fresh pair from time to time!

I watched the Doug DeMuro Model S Plaid test drive video yesterday. The expression on his face when he floored it suggested he may have wished the Tesla had an underwear drawer. If you haven't seen the video, it's worth it for that alone.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

So there are two choices for a developer:
1- Develop native custom apps for IOS and Android, and use all of the API calls/features available on that platform. This provides the best User Interface and User Experience, but it's also the most work and expense for the developer - up front development and throughout the lifecycle. Android adds the challenge that for the best QC testing, you must test on multiple versions of Android on multiple hardware vendors. Apple IOS is pretty much test once, run anywhere due the strict environment implemented by Apple.

2-The other choice is to use a Cross Platform development tool, such as Microsoft's Xamarin. This, in theory, let's the developer create one User Interface and application that works on all platforms. You might deduce that it forces everything down to a common denominator scenario, and therefore nothing is optimized and it simply can't provide an optimal UI/UX. Many hardware/platform specific features can't be used, etc. The benefit to the developer is one application to develop, but ALOT more testing to get it right on all platforms.

IMO, a company such as Rivian should be providing native apps on both platforms, and not using cross platform development tools.

There's a third, and better option, imo:

Use something like Xamarin to implement your client-side business logic, which is shared between all platforms, but build native UI to sit on top of that.

This way you could have four development teams:

1. Android Ui
2. iOS Ui
3. Cross-platform client
4. Cloud services

 

[SAWRiv22]

I'm interested in people weighing in on their mobile device platform of choice. For a long time I saw Rivian focused on iOS development based on job postings but recently I see more Android developer positions.

What is the general demographic of this community? Is it split roughtly 50/50 like the larger populace or does this population skew one way or the other.

I'm also interested in the perspective of Tesla owners on how the Android / iOS apps differ in function.

I'll start - I'm currently an iOS user (though I was a long-time Android user going back to the original Google Nexus One). All things being equal I'd like to go back to Android when my current device warranty is up.

We too are heavily invested in IOS/apple products...I don't imagine switching any time soon. Just give me a connection to my phone (USB or bluetooth) and I'm OK.
I agree with the $80K price tag, you will see a higher % of IOS than normal.

Rivian should be able to provide capabilities that exceed that of a $25K sedan!

 

[Eeyore]

What is the general demographic of this community? Is it split roughtly 50/50 like the larger populace or does this population skew one way or the other.

iOS all the way for me. I have an android work phone, so I have a daily reminder of why I like my iPhone so much more.

 

[Babbuino]

iOS all the way for me. I have an android work phone, so I have a daily reminder of why I like my iPhone so much more.

I used to like apple products until they stopped innovating. My parents still like their iphones since nothing changes year by year ?.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

I used to like apple products until they stopped innovating. My parents still like their iphones since nothing changes year by year ?.

You don't honestly believe that, do you? You sound like a sack-riding jackass when you say stuff like that.

There are valid benefits to both platforms, and all of the major smartphone manufacturers have innovated, at various times.

 

[Babbuino]

You don't honestly believe that, do you? You sound like a sack-riding jackass when you say stuff like that.

There are valid benefits to both platforms, and all of the major smartphone manufacturers have innovated, at various times.

Interesting, so I just mentioned that ios hasn't innovated in years, not that there aren't benefits to it. As I said before my folks enjoy their iphones since they haven't changed anything in a while. It's easy for them to move onto the next phone and feel like everything is the same.
The iPhone grabs innovative tech from other companies and polishes it before putting it in their phones. This has been going on for years, not necessarily a bad thing just a fact.

 

[skyote]

I'm Android because I'm a fan of open standards. Apple has done a great job with their ecosystem, but way too much proprietary/lock in for me.

My biggest annoyance is iMessage. They won't embrace RCS because they know iMessage has certain customers locked. However, I've moved mixed ios/Android groups to Signal, which is very secure & works on both platforms, as well as both Mac & Windows.

 

[crashmtb]

You don't honestly believe that, do you? You sound like a sack-riding jackass when you say stuff like that.
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it’s just cellphones. Yeesh

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