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The expectation that Rivian’s software stack is as good as Tesla’s is today is ridiculous. Tesla has been doing this longer than anyone else, and is multiple generations ahead of everybody. If impatience with certain impending features is deterring from purchasing/keeping a vehicle, then maybe Rivian isn’t your best option.
The thread was to inquire if this is in the pipeline, so yes, I'm under no impression that Rivian's software is as good as Tesla's - yet.
 

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With all due respect, that is not a good defensive, when you spend almost $100k on a vehicle.

Everyone has their priorities. It doesn't mean the viewpoints are silly either.
That's the flawed fundamental point. Because the vehicle costs around $100k, it should have X, Y, and Z.

The value proposition is the vehicle has these features and capabilities, the price that. If that satisfies the acquire's perspective, then it's good. If it does not, then its not good and perspective acquirer moves on.

The value proposition is not because it costs this, it should have all the features or things those vehicles that cost less and more.

My point is that you knew going in it did not have self park feature.
 
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That's the flawed fundamental point. Because the vehicle costs around $100k, it should have X, Y, and Z.

The value proposition is the vehicle has these features and capabilities, the price that. If that satisfies the acquire's perspective, then it's good. If it does not, then its not good and perspective acquirer moves on.

The value proposition is not because it costs this, it should have all the features or things those vehicles that cost less and more.

My point is that you knew going in it did not have self park feature.
Sure. And that's why I created this thread asking if anyone is aware of it being in the pipeline. Simple as that.
 

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Sure. And that's why I created this thread asking if anyone is aware of it being in the pipeline. Simple as that.
Don't take this to the bank, because my memory is hazy. I recall asking head of software and the answer was "maybe". Honestly, unless you absolutely have no choice but to park in tight spaces every single day, this is a non-issue. The camera views are good, though not high resolution, and the power steering is well-boosted and low effort. Or, wait for the R2 (reserve now), which is not only smaller but will have greater autonomous hardware and capability than today's R1s.
 

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Sure. And that's why I created this thread asking if anyone is aware of it being in the pipeline. Simple as that.
This forum can be so helpful at times, and then it's a bloodbath for no good reason. I thought this by itself was a reasonable question " Does anyone know if there is automatic park (self park equivalent in Tesla) is being planned anytime soon? ", but people attack your wife, your buying decisions, the name of your first born child, etc. Just focus on the question. If I understood those that tried to answer the question, it sounds like the technology is there but not the software, so maybe in the future. That's better than the Rivian being technologically limited and a no-go, like I assume FSD might be.
 

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Restating what was stated in another comment - The Model Y has autopark because Telsa has been shipping vehicles and software for over ten years. From what I understand, Tesla didn't have that as a feature on their first models, it was around 2017 that they released auto park. It's never been mentioned by Rivian as even on the radar, so it is a few years off, if ever.
 

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I have no idea what Rivian is planning - question answered. However...

Has she actually tried self-park on any other vehicle or is this just a keeping up with the Joneses?

Every vehicle that I've owned with self parking capabilities, Tesla included, is the biggest waste of time, 1/2 the time it can't find the spot and the other 1/2 of the time you're holding up traffic trying to get the damn thing to work.

The real world practicality of self-park isn't there in my honest opinion. Have her try it and then see if she still wants it.
 
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Don't take this to the bank, because my memory is hazy. I recall asking head of software and the answer was "maybe". Honestly, unless you absolutely have no choice but to park in tight spaces every single day, this is a non-issue. The camera views are good, though not high resolution, and the power steering is well-boosted and low effort. Or, wait for the R2 (reserve now), which is not only smaller but will have greater autonomous hardware and capability than today's R1s.
Yes, I'm a R2 reservation holder as well :)

So I want Rivian to do well.
 

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This forum can be so helpful at times, and then it's a bloodbath for no good reason. I thought this by itself was a reasonable question " Does anyone know if there is automatic park (self park equivalent in Tesla) is being planned anytime soon? ", but people attack your wife, your buying decisions, the name of your first born child, etc. Just focus on the question. If I understood those that tried to answer the question, it sounds like the technology is there but not the software, so maybe in the future. That's better than the Rivian being technologically limited and a no-go, like I assume FSD might be.
It has to do with triggers. Intentional or otherwise. We have our share of Tesla trolls here to stir shit up. So any comparison to Tesla is a trigger. Unfair comparisons to Tesla is fact and valid point. There's also the pitfall of the written word, how it is read and perceived, without aid of sound and annunciation. None of these "problems" are unique to this forum, or this topic. Go to any forum, any social platform and you'd observe the same; even innocuous groups/topics like local eats. Gotta have a thick skin and not live in a glass house. Sticks and stones. Welcome to the internet and all that.
 
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This forum can be so helpful at times, and then it's a bloodbath for no good reason. I thought this by itself was a reasonable question " Does anyone know if there is automatic park (self park equivalent in Tesla) is being planned anytime soon? ", but people attack your wife, your buying decisions, the name of your first born child, etc. Just focus on the question. If I understood those that tried to answer the question, it sounds like the technology is there but not the software, so maybe in the future. That's better than the Rivian being technologically limited and a no-go, like I assume FSD might be.
Thank you!

We all can go big with emotions and online forums are no different. I try to take a step back when responding. But i understand that not everyone is going to be that way.

We all benefit if Rivian does well, and it will do well when threads like this go in the right direction.

Keep the feedback coming.
 
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It has to do with triggers. Intentional or otherwise. We have our shares of Tesla trolls here to stir shit up. So any comparison to Tesla is a trigger. There's also the pitfall of the written word, how it is read and perceived, without aid of sound and annunciation. None of these "problems" are unique to this forum, or this topic. Go to any forum, any social platform and you'd observe the same. Gotta have a thick skin and not live in a glass house. Sticks and stones. Welcome to the internet and all that.
Yup, very true.

And to be clear I don't own a Tesla. I have been intrigued by it (and have done the test drive), but that's about it.
 
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I have no idea what Rivian is planning - question answered. However...

Has she actually tried self-park on any other vehicle or is this just a keeping up with the Joneses?

Every vehicle that I've owned with self parking capabilities, Tesla included, is the biggest waste of time, 1/2 the time it can't find the spot and the other 1/2 of the time you're holding up traffic trying to get the damn thing to work.

The real world practicality of self-park isn't there in my honest opinion. Have her try it and then see if she still wants it.

Yeah that's a bridge I have been trying to cross with her. She has tried self park a grand total of one time. But has been a fan of it based on her research around it (she is a PhD so goes deep into all that).

Personally, I could care less about this feature.
 

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This forum can be so helpful at times, and then it's a bloodbath for no good reason. I thought this by itself was a reasonable question " Does anyone know if there is automatic park (self park equivalent in Tesla) is being planned anytime soon? ", but people attack your wife, your buying decisions, the name of your first born child, etc. Just focus on the question. If I understood those that tried to answer the question, it sounds like the technology is there but not the software, so maybe in the future. That's better than the Rivian being technologically limited and a no-go, like I assume FSD might be.
Didn't read any personal attacks. Just because different perspectives were raised do not mean attacks.

The reaction has nothing to do with Tesla either. It has everything to do with where expectations are placed. Tesla was mentioned as a vehicle that cost half as much as an example. OP could easily used other vehicles that cost about half as R1 to illustrate the same example.

I believe OP feels that SW updates that Tesla has been issuing on their vehicles for many years, improving and increasing the vehicle utility, is the norm; hence, Rivian will do the same - maybe.

I recall someone started a thread while back about Rivian not having a massaging seats for the driver, because Telluride does or something like it. Again it's the same type of argument that places the exceptions in a wrong place.

Not quite the same example but very similar, which is R1 is targeting certain market segment, just as 911 is. Both has features and capabilities that other does not and Rivian is about half the cost as 911 turbo. So does that type of argument make sense? I think not.
 
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Didn't read any personal attacks. Just because different perspectives were raised do not mean attacks.

The reaction has nothing to do with Tesla either. It has everything to do with where expectations are placed. Tesla was mentioned as a vehicle that cost half as much as an example. OP could easily used other vehicles that cost about half as R1 to illustrate the same example.

I believe OP feels that SW updates that Tesla has been issuing on their vehicles for many years, improving and increasing the vehicle utility, is the norm; hence, Rivian will do the same - maybe.

I recall someone started a thread while back about Rivian not having a massaging seats for the driver, because Telluride does or something like it. Again it's the same type of argument that places the exceptions in a wrong place.

Not quite the same example but very similar, which is R1 is targeting certain market segment, just as 911 is. Both has features and capabilities that other does not and Rivian is about half the cost as 911 turbo. So does that type of argument make sense? I think not.
All valid points. But to answer your question directly, my question primarily was if anyone has insight into if this feature is planned anytime soon, that was all.

Anyways, let's move on.
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