Rivian R1T is Motortrend Truck of the Year!

[tojesky]

Why should the ability to take delivery quickly be a factor in awarding the best vehicle? By that logic, the least desirable vehicle should win because a dealer would pay you to tow it off their lot.

Did you read my last sentence? SMH

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[Dbeglor]

The comments on the video are AMAZING!

Just goes to show a lot of Americans fear and despise change.
Dont make me think!
I know what I know and I am comfortable knowing those few things and anyone who challenges my perspective is an idiot.

I get that this post is not exactly "friendly" and in that it is hypocritical but what a brilliant display of people who cant think critically. This laggard mentality I think, is the investor's concern, will enough Americans take a moment to challenge their preconceived notions and buy a truck like the Rivian?

It's just the typical technology adoption curve. The comments you're seeing are the skeptics, which typically represent the last 15-20% of the adoption. Basically, once they are overwhelmed by 8 out of 10 people being on the other side they finally put down their defenses and give in.

In this case, there are legitimate objections among that 15-20%, such as frequent towers, etc. where EV's truly aren't right for them yet. Advancements will have to come to convert everyone.

https://www.helloiota.com/articles/technology-adoption

 

[SeaGeo]

MT doubling down on the idea 300kW will be available as an OTA upgrade

I honestly am not confident that they understand the difference between the vehicle capability and the RAN charger capability. No one should buy the Rivian based on the expectation it will be capable of 800v level DCFC speeds until Rivian unequivocally says that it will.

If it were, it would cut about 10 mins from a 50% charge (18 mins vs. 28) if it allowed you to average 100kw higher rate over that 50%. For my use, it would save me an hour or two a year, so while certainly welcomed it's not a critical factor in the purchase decision for me. You also need to find a charger capable of that speed and the conditions to be optimal to take advantage of it.

I strongly suspect there was a miscommunication between Rivian and MotorTrend. I asked the MT guys, and they said they asked seral times. I brought up the discrepancy with CS and quite stubbornly suggested the website needs fixed because they have 3+ values floating o there. The website is flat out confusing, Brian Gase has said 240ish kW to Elektrek, someone apparently told MT 300 kW (though I suspect that was not about LE trucks), and their official documentation says ~200kw. I'm honestly surprised we haven't heard a short seller drop a "fraud" report on them over it. I'm also surprised Rivian hasmt corrected the MT articles or Elektrek article.

 

[ChrissyOne]

Meanwhile, the market for Elon Musk adoration is heating up...
https://seekingalpha.com/news/37795...-times-person-of-the-year?utm_medium=referral

 

[Dbeglor]

Did you read my last sentence? SMH

I did, but I was responding to the first paragraph. What does your conclusion have to do with the previous statement?

Person A: "I think people overlook FDR's handicap when they laud his achievements in office. By all accounts, Teddy would have wiped the floor with him in a fight."

Otherwise, he was a great President and deserving of the title of greatest ever."

Person B: "What does being a cripple have to do with being a great President?".

Person A: "Did you read my last sentence?"

 

[Derek]

“Rivian hits a grand slam!”

I really hope they post the test numbers on how the R1T did against the other trucks.

 

[R1S Maineiac]

Meanwhile, the market for Elon Musk adoration is heating up...
https://seekingalpha.com/news/37795...-times-person-of-the-year?utm_medium=referral

That's okay, my Tesla holdings paid for my Rivian IPO holdings, and might even pay for a chunk of my r1s.

 

[ChrissyOne]

That's okay, my Tesla holdings paid for my Rivian IPO holdings, and might even pay for a chunk of my r1s.

You clearly knew when to get out of your Model X.

 

[Canthoney]

This is glorious news. I can't even keep up with all the opportunities for trolling Rivian haters. The Motortrend Facebook post alone is going to keep me busy all day.

I wouldn’t spend too much time on feeding them, it’s like a Hydra you cut one head off three more appear! ?

 

[R1S Maineiac]

You clearly knew when to get out of your Model X.

When it broke down and left me stranded, they treated me like crap, as if I did something out of the ordinary to break it.

 

[ChrissyOne]

Let's hope Rivian does better.

 

[Dbeglor]

I strongly suspect there was a miscommunication between Rivian and MotorTrend. I asked the MT guys, and they said they asked seral times. I brought up the discrepancy with CS and quite stubbornly suggested the website needs fixed because they have 3+ values floating o there. The website is flat out confusing, Brian Gase has said 240ish kW to Elektrek, someone apparently told MT 300 kW (though I suspect that was not about LE trucks), and their official documentation says ~200kw. I'm honestly surprised we haven't heard a short seller drop a "fraud" report on them over it. I'm also surprised Rivian hasmt corrected the MT articles or Elektrek article.

The consistent information given regarding DCFC has always and continues to be 140 miles in 20 minutes. That equates to an average charge rate of about 175kw over 58kwh of battery or 43%, and frankly matters far more than a single kwh peak charge rate anyway.

The likely explanation is that all the various numbers heard thrown around are possible peak charge rates, and Rivian is still tooling around with the charge curve so it's a moving target. Whether the peak rate is 175, 200 or whatever doesn't really matter or have much practical significance. None of that changes that the vehicle should be capable of averaging 175kw within a 43% charge range. The only thing we don't know is where that band is.

 

[SeaGeo]

The consistent information given regarding DCFC has always and continues to be 140 miles in 20 minutes. That equates to an average charge rate of about 175kw over 58kwh of battery or 43%, and frankly matters far more than a single kwh peak charge rate anyway.

The likely explanation is that all the various numbers heard thrown around are possible peak charge rates, and Rivian is still tooling around with the charge curve so it's a moving target. Whether the peak rate is 175, 200 or whatever doesn't really matter or have much practical significance. None of that changes that the vehicle should be capable of averaging 175kw within a 43% charge range. The only thing we don't know is where that band is.

Agreed. That's the "out of the box" rate, and is obviously totally possible with a 200kW max. What's inconsistent and confusing is what Rivian has told journalists, and what they communicate on their website because the way they present charging information. If they'd separate vehicles specs from RAN specs, that would remove the ambiguity. Shit, if they'd even give vehicle specs.

There's a reason we've been asking about this for who knows how long.

 

[godfodder0901]

IIRC the Hummer hit 0-60 in 3 seconds flat, while the R1T did it in 3.2. I don't know that I saw any MotorTrend quarter mile numbers.

Numbers from Motor Trend:

Rivian R1T(20s; 21s):
11.6 sec @ 110.8 mph; 11.7 sec @ 111.2 mph
0-60 (20s and 21s)
3.1 sec.; 3.2 sec.

Hummer:
11.7 sec @ 105.4 mph
0-60
3.0 sec.

 

[ChrissyOne]

I honestly think that 0-60 times will soon become an irrelevant measure of vehicle performance. Every EV can do something like 3 seconds, and we're down to splitting 1/10th seconds hairs now. I'm more interested in passing power, like 50-80.

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