As you might have guessed.... higher gas prices has increased interest in EVs [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[iansriv]

And that's the thing - you can enjoy both. The EV vs ICE divide never made sense to me. I think an EV daily driver + ICE road tripper or weekend car is the best mix available. If one can afford both, that is a dream setup. An EV likely will never (and should not try to) match the feeling of driving a manual and that's fine. We can just enjoy things for what they are.

Yes, as long as you have a wife that doesn't complain about the 911 being too low or too noisy and you complicate matters with constant speeding tickets. Life is complicated (j/k). Cheers.

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[stormbreaker]

I didn't see this mentioned in the thread thus far, but I just learned about a concept called 'demand destruction'.

The article didn't indicate that society is at that point yet, however the pain point of extremely high fuel costs have many people looking elsewhere. If we didn't have such luddites in charge of this explicative deleted country, circumstances would be different.

My young peers at work all do well enough, however without charging at their apartments, they all drive ICE when they'd prefer EV....like my Rivian

 

[Jeff M]

It's a lot of copium. A lot of the issue with adoption IMO is straight up lack of education to the general population. Years of FUD have worked as intended. People are CONVINCED you need at least 500 miles of range that charges within 5 minutes with charging stations at every corner for EVs to viable. And oh, you will still need to replace the battery every 2 years, assuming it doesn't burn your house down.

The Rivian was a fun conversation starter, albeit a frustrating one as non-EV owners tend to have a lot of opinions and assumption about EV life. I always entertain genuine curiosity but once the conversation turns from questions to uninformed statements like "well they are just as bad for the environment with the mining" or "you have to replace the tires every year", I check out and let it die.

I like your checkout guidance and when to move from providing knowledgeable quantifiable information to fielding uninformed innuendo.

 

[jrmbadger]

Its not going to be one person that changes someone's mind, but once they hear how great EVs are from 2-3 other people they know, they will start to rethink things.

My father in law is a die hard right winger and when he found out we were driving the EV to a family reunion he told my wife "You do know its over 500 miles right?" - he legitimately had NO idea that DC fast charging existed. He was surprised when we rolled up about 5 minutes after him (we started about the same time) and still had 50% charge left.

 

[Jeff M]

More charging stations for long trips and exploring rural areas has dramatically changed since we bought our 234 mile range 2021 Audi ETron Prestige in Idaho in 2021. Our 2026 Dual Max Performance R1S has far more range - beyond bladder limits . But I can easily make long trips in the Audi now. Faster charging, but more frequent. I really enjoy both!

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