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Rivian vs F-150 Hybrid: Review after 48 hours
Ok - not an apples-to-apples review, but the closest I have. Owning a Ford Lightning isn’t in the cards given the backlog of reservations (likely several years). The GM Silverado isn’t in the wild yet; and the Hummer is out of reach. Cyber truck is MIA.
I do however have the 2021 F-150 Powerboost which is a full-sized hybrid and runs under electric power a decent amount around time. While not an EV, it gets quite respectable gas mileage for its size and feature sets. (For comparison purposes of this write-up, the F-150 is the Platinum trim with all options selected. I currently have 34k miles on it.)
I picked up my Rivian on Friday afternoon and so I’m only 48 hours in. During this time, I’ve manage to put about 300 miles on it with a mixture of highway and in town driving. Nothing off pavement yet, but that will be coming.
Just some observations that I have listed below. I’m sure people will disagree and that’s fine. I’m just one guy who happens to be a car enthusiast and have a good use case for buying a Rivian.
Ford BlueCruise vs Rivian’s Driver+:
Hopefully you enjoyed the read.
Have a great evening.
Ok - not an apples-to-apples review, but the closest I have. Owning a Ford Lightning isn’t in the cards given the backlog of reservations (likely several years). The GM Silverado isn’t in the wild yet; and the Hummer is out of reach. Cyber truck is MIA.
I do however have the 2021 F-150 Powerboost which is a full-sized hybrid and runs under electric power a decent amount around time. While not an EV, it gets quite respectable gas mileage for its size and feature sets. (For comparison purposes of this write-up, the F-150 is the Platinum trim with all options selected. I currently have 34k miles on it.)
I picked up my Rivian on Friday afternoon and so I’m only 48 hours in. During this time, I’ve manage to put about 300 miles on it with a mixture of highway and in town driving. Nothing off pavement yet, but that will be coming.
Just some observations that I have listed below. I’m sure people will disagree and that’s fine. I’m just one guy who happens to be a car enthusiast and have a good use case for buying a Rivian.
Ford BlueCruise vs Rivian’s Driver+:
- Ford’s first attempt at autonomous driving has received pretty solid reviews in the industry. Neither BlueCruise nor Driver+ supports lane changes. Both companies indicate it will be coming via OTA update.
- Ford’s is completely “hands-free” meaning that you don’t have to touch the steering wheel every ~15 seconds (give or take). Advantage Ford.
- Ford’s max speed on BlueCruise is 80 mph. I don’t know what the Driver+ maximum is, but it is higher than 80. Advantage Rivian.
- Re-engaging system after lane change: The F-150 just reengages after executing the lane change; the Rivian has to press down on the stalk to get the system going again. Advantage Ford.
- Overall Rating: Tie
- [EDIT: After spending a little more time with the R1T, I'd rate the BlueCruise much higher than the Rivian. The Ford lets you tweak/bias your position within the lane without deactivating the system. I find myself re-engaging the Rivian's system unnecessarily.]
- I’m impressed with what Rivian has put together. No question that it seem overwhelming when first getting into it, but the learning curve was better than I expected.
- Both the F-150 and the Rivian have Alexa support.
- The elephant here is the lack of Rivian support for Apple CarPlay / Android Auto. If Rivian had support for this platform, then the overall grade (to me) would be a slam dunk for Rivian. Even without this support, I still give a slight edge to Rivian. Not having talk to text messages is huge for me.
- Overall Rating: Advantage Rivian
- Rivian’s strength is also a weakness. I really like the clean approach to the Rivian dash, but would like some physical buttons for a few things. I realize I’m talking out of both sides of my mouth on that.
- F-150 has a good mixture of a large screen coupled with physical buttons.
- Overall Rating: Advantage Ford
- Not apples-to-apples here and I recognize that. I’m quite impressed with the ingenuity of the Rivian storage and you can fit a ton in this truck.
- I appreciate that the size is (1) bigger than the Ford Ranger but (2) shorter than the F-150.
- My only negative contradicts this and just wishes that the back seat of the Rivian was a couple of inches of more legroom (and I’m not a tall person).
- I didn’t rate this category since it isn’t a fair comparison.
- Rivian. ‘Nuff said, LOL
- Overall Rating: Rivian by a literal mile.
- Both the F-150 and the Rivian has heated & cooled front seats
- Both vehicles have heated seats in the back.
- The F-150 however also has massaging seats in the front.
- The F-150’s back seat basically has its own zip code and grading the size is not a fair comparison.
- Overall Rating: Ford due to its massaging seats
- Given the size difference of the F-150 vs the Rivian, there is no question that the Rivian is much more nimble. Impressive given its extra weight.
- Overall Rating: Advantage Rivian.
- The F-150 (probably) has more storage, but the ingenuity in HOW the Rivian uses its storage is great for the end user. I like the lockable areas in the Frunk and of course the Gear Tunnel sets this apart.
- Overall Rating: Advantage Rivian
- Both the F-150 and the Rivian have mobile apps that can warm up the vehicle and so some other general tasks.
- Rivian clearly takes this further with allowing your smartphone to be an actual key. I’m a huge fan of this and Rivian clearly wins this category for me.
- The only negative I have for Rivian in this one is the lack of a power tailgate. For the price point that one is a head scratcher to me. The F-150 power tailgate is one that I use all the time. Also it would be nice if the Rivian had a step to get into the bed.
- Overall Rating: Advantage Rivian due to its use of the keyless smartphone “key”
- The F-150 Platinum has the Bang & Olufsen Unleashed system; my version of the R1T has the internal Rivian system (e.g. not the Meridian system).
- The F-150 B&O system gets strong reviews. However, my setup has a rattle for any loud bass that I need to have looked at.
- I find the Rivian system to be quite impressive. (Don’t shoot the messenger).
- Advantage: Rivian
- Rivian’s suspension will raise and lower based on user setting whereas the F-150 is fixed.
- Advantage: Rivian
- The F-150 has a best in class sound dB rating (at least at the time of redesign in 2021).
- For the Rivian, the obvious absence of engine noise is a game changer.
- My F-150 has a few rattles here and there, but nothing that is blatant enough to bring into a dealership.
- Advantage: Rivian (note that I have the A/T 20” tires too)
- Ford’s PowerBoost engine has the hybrid batteries, but has the combustion engine for a generator feature. That produces not only the 120V outlets (x4), but also a 30Amp 240V outlet. Not a fair comparison to the Rivian, but a cool feature that I do use in my F-150 a decent amount.
- I’m a huge fan that Rivian handles the registration/DMV aspect of the buying process (caveat: if you live in one of the majority of states that allow it).
- My delivery appointment was odd and unorganized. I won’t rate this category as I don’t think my experience was representative of the company as a whole. Just like there are many bad Ford dealerships, I think my Rivian service center was just having an off day.
- I have recently installed solar panels on a property that I have access to and travel there once or twice a week. My plan is to do most of my “refueling” there so I won’t be pulling off the grid. I’m excited about this use case.
Hopefully you enjoyed the read.
Have a great evening.
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