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The thing is no other species has changed the climate as much as humans have. That’s the truth. We are destroying what we have evolved to. The fluctuating temperature argument is crap. Reversing ice ages? Really? We have moved the CO2 level back to what it was millions of years ago. Not...

Agree but that’s not what we are talking about. The earth was much warmer and sea levels much higher millions of years ago with a higher concentration of co2. If you don’t mind all costal cities and low land areas underwater then more co2 for ya.

Hahaha. Nice work.

Well it is 100% proven that CO2 is a greenhouse gas that causes heat to get trapped in the atmosphere.

i don’t understand why it’s a right to buy an ICE car. It’s nit in the constitution. It’s just a current transportation option. It’s not the constitution says the right for quick transportation.

It’s still less overall CO2 emissions. And coal is a low and decreasing fraction of the overall grid power.

Got no issues with the clock. I know where it is and look at it when I need to.

Here we go with the grid isn’t ready stuff. I’m sure they said the same think with personal house air conditioning. Yet everything worked out. It will be fine.

That’s why we need to start mining asteroids.

That’s debatable. I would say emissions are much worse than mining. We will always have to mine for raw materials not just for batteries. So no I don’t think BEVs are going to be any worse for mining than what we already do.

So use electricity to make fuel to burn? Just use the energy directly in BEVs.

Agree. a few more up in cabin country would be greatly appreciated.

The market isn't always right. Without subsidies or controls, we would still be using mostly coal for power plants. Obviously not a good idea.

Agree. I think you both are saying the same thing and are both right.

hahahaha. wow. so stupid and not surprising.

100% agree. It's a lazy argument of it's only xx% and won't solve everything so we should do nothing. It's going to take a lot of change in different areas to decarbonize. Might as well start with the easy stuff first like power and light transportation.

Wait 16 chargers? That's Tesla like.

But it would be cool. I'm just being flippant since some don't think we need to change things. Nobody has the right to buy an ICE car, it's an option based on companies that make them. Those companies can change what they sell at anytime. Being able to buy an ICE car isn't written in the...

Sure then why can't I buy a tank? or a battleship? Things need to change.

Sure with a 40 mph headwind and going up to the rocky mountains. I've never gotten that low on the highway going 75+ in my gen 1.