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late model Gen 1 has most of the suspension updates that are in Gen 2. Late 2023/24 rides about the same as Gen 2.

At this point would it not make sense that the Quad is released as a 2026 model? Assuming they release the 2026 models sometime late Spring to Summer, a release of a 2025 Quad in March would make it a very short lived model.

Probably not as the vin confirms it’s a Quad.

On Gen 1 models only Quads have the yellow break calipers. The CarMax listing I posted advertises a Dual Standard but the yellow break calipers (along with a vin check) prove it’s actually a Quad. They’re only asking $64K which would make sense for a Dual, but it’s almost $10K less than what a...

Trade in value is entirely different…..you can’t actually a buy an R1S for $60K

show me a Quad for $60K, they’re all $70K unless they have over 30K mi.

I noticed no difference in engine noise between Gen 1 and Gen 2. I thought the enduro motors would sound different but could hardly tell. I think we have enough data now to definitively conclude that the Gen 2 range “improvements” had more to do with different testing procedures and fudging...

This is a steal, very late 2023 Quad R1S with dark wheels for $64K! https://www.carmax.com/car/26727798 listing says dual but has yellow brake calipers…take advantage of their pricing error!

I’d go Gen 1 used. I bought a 2023 R1S Quad last year with 350mi for $73K and it’s great! Totally flawless….i demo’d a 2025 Dual recently and it largely felt like the same car but with less power and better cameras. Ride quality was the same (late 2023/24 Quads have most of the Gen 2 suspension...

I’ve never owned a Tesla but rented a 2023 Model 3 last week. After driving a Quad for almost 6 months, the Tesla mostly seemed like a massive downgrade. Interior felt very cheap, with chintzy “wood” trim and crummy steering wheel. Rivian feels so much more refined and aesthetically pleasing...

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yes, according to the Rivian parts system you received the very latest front air springs and rear air springs which are now a revision or two earlier than the very current ones. However, I think it’s the rear dampers that make the most difference in ride quality. Since you own a very late 2023...

Ha, I noticed that too! Clunks after every bump…

@Riviot was kind enough to look up all the suspension related parts #s in the Rivian system, so now we have a definitive list of what changed and when: Front Dampers 2022 R1S Launch Edition (vin 02xxx) Right: C200055320-A Left: C200055318-A (These are unconfirmed #s, the Rivian parts system...

I hope one of my Bosch motors fails just as they run out of replacements, forcing them to replace my entire vehicle with a 2025 Quad :)

The 2025 Dual I demo’d had an absolutely deafening heat pump. It was so loud I could barely hear the sound system. I had heard there was a fix so glad they are successfully performing it for people with that issue.

I’d like to see a more detailed analysis of your upgrade costs here. Gen 2 is so much more expensive, I’ve never come across a scenario where upgrading could come even close to a wash with even the most aggressive incentives from Rivian. I suppose you have a fairly high interest loan or lease...

since I’ve never had a car with blind spot cameras, it already seems cutting edge to me. Like you said, there’s still plenty enough resolution to make out a vehicle in your blind spot regardless of how blurry and distorted the image quality is.

interesting, I was wondering if they ever did a rolling upgrade of the cameras. My Quad (23/vin 18xxx) has actually pretty decent resolution on the front/back cameras. It’s the blind spot cams that are terrible.

they upgraded the air springs and dampers https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/gen-1-rolling-suspension-changes.37301/