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I am more worried about the near-term. Rivian needs a successful R2 launch to fund its bet on autonomy. RJ has been saying there aren’t many good choices when it comes to mid-cost EV besides Tesla Model 3/Y. R2 and Mercedes-Benz CLA electric are going to be one of those. If I am in the market...

With so many OEMs making similar announcements recently, this round of hype should be treated differently from precious diverse and unique promises. I am confident that this will land much more smoothly. Technology doesn't lie.

Tesla is in its own game of delivering Robotaxi with vision sensors only. It has no competitor yet and it will have little impact on others unless it can scale its Robotaxi service. All others are in the other game of catching up and surpassing Tesla's capabilities with hybrid sensors approach.

No. Only watched the keynote and demo video. I'm more impressed at Nvidia's capabilities. I can't imagine how Rivian could keep up. It will be hard for Rivian to win over customers when more mature competitors join the autonomy game

Otherwise, Rivian is making the wrong bet on developing its own stacks and chips.

I don't think these systems were designed to handle this situation

LIDAR is not going to help making it do right turn on red better. Rivian is planning to use LIDAR to handle the more extreme edge cases to bridge the gap between Tesla and itself.

Folks with Gen2 and onward shouldn’t need to consider purchasing 3rd party driving assist devices unless you are fine getting rid of it a year later. At least wait until Rivian AI day in December and see when do they plan to release hands-off everywhere feature on Gen2 vehicles.

RJ said in the interview that R2 will have a better sensor set than R1.

The clock doesn't work the same this time

Watch again. He said they haven't shown anything that have been done by their hundreds of people working on ADAS yet. He revealed his own lie. I am betting my money on not seeing anything more than the Mobileye system until they ramp up R2 production. They will say the same thing a year later...

This following video can confirm that Rivian has its ADAS and infotainment computing hardware separated and the hardware shown in the picture is for infotainment and not ADAS. I don't think Rivian will upgrade their Orin chip on ADAS hardware any time soon, at least not doing it at the launch of R2.

FWIW, this is the infotainment chip which is not relevant to assisted driving discussed in this thread. Gen2's infotainment system does need some improvement.

Bring back compass yellow

This might be just a tease for the new quad motor R1 review next week.

I have a hunch Rivian will add lidars to R1 soon to catch up on autonomous driving races.

I think this is it. Should be the new color named California Dune caught in this Rivian UX development demo:

They might have secured a good deal on the sourcing on sensors. The cost of sensors will go down as they become more common and even a must-have in the near future.

Rivian is following Chinese EV makers' two year ago footsteps and I can see they will be successful in improving Gen2 autonomous system by a lot. Check videos from Kyle out of spec recorded in his China trips. Lots of car are able to have FSD like behaviors, even the ones with a lower price tag.

This could be the ground truth vehicle mentioned in 2024 Rivian investor day: