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Apparently the Turbo is setting a bunch of records over at C&D, the braking distance is astonishing for how heavy it is! The Porsche Cayenne Turbo Electric is the quickest SUV we've ever tested, reaching 60 mph in just 2.1 seconds and completing the quarter-mile in 9.5 seconds. The braking...

Yes, for sure, I hear you. However, there will be another 3rd party test at some point who will get much better results with the R2 so in general take all of these results with a grain of salt. Rivian followed the rules to get their number, the problem lies within the EPA. It's like...

I wasn't being serious, just playing off of the big Out of Spec/Rivian Tracker video today.

They need to go back and edit the article, this sentence is not accurate ;) "Performance’s 88 kWh battery pack can carry it an estimated 330 miles, just edging out the Model Y Premium (327). Tick that box."

Yes, I realize there are people that drive only 70 mph but I'd wager the majority drive faster when on the highways.

Fossil fuels are a finite supply BTW, so we should use them wisely. Light duty vehicles can easily be all electric. Save the Dino juice for air travel, ocean freighters, rail and so forth until energy storage/generation technology is good for applications like those too.

Well True, but also who drives at only 70 mph....also not real world.

Did OOS do any lap times or 0-60 & 1/4 mile data collection while they had both of these vehicles?

Can you keep the FOB in your pocket as you walk up to the R2 and simply touch the handle to uplock/open door?

💯 I get that. It seems though the R2 would of come closer to it's stated EPA figures and the MYP would of done better than EPA under less extreme heat. No doubt the ratings can be sand bagged or squeezed thin...I much prefer the former.

Nah, Clark's cooking oil will do the trick 🤣

Right but the headline is how much lower the R2 is compared to EPA when another test could be much closer. But everyone picks up on this test because you all are YouTubers.

Sure, that's why Tom over at SOC got 259 miles on A/T's and he didn't even run it until it died.

Wasn't the entire point of the test to compare to EPA test? Pretty sure they don't test in nearly 100 degree weather.

Ha, yes but the entire point is comparing to EPA ratings and I'm certain they don't test in nearly 100 degree temps.

All you're saying with the Tesla there is that it's more efficient. The Rivian would of come closer to it's EPA range without the A/C working so hard and the Tesla would of done even better too if the ambient temps were not so extreme.

Also of note, there's been another range test done on the A/T's which achieved 259 miles (State of Charge) and he didn't even run it down to a dead stop. The temp was 98 degrees and cabin temp of 68 with OOS test.

State of Charge got 259, so it also shows the discrepancies with these YouTubers testing procedures.

Same with ICE. The point is, total life cycle of the product regardless of how many owners. More to your point, perhaps we shouldn't buy so much stuff and hang on to things longer. Oh wait, that's not what feeds the consumption machine ;)

There are numerous studies out there showing BEV's have a much lower carbon footprint over the life of the vehicle. Yes, up front the batteries have a high carbon footprint but it doesn't take long to recoup that by not burning gasoline.