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Part of the requirement to get money from the Feds from the infrastructure package (and yes, Tesla is applying for that money), is that your charging network is not a "walled garden". They'll be opened soon. There may be time limits, definitely a different pricing scale, and maybe only certain...

The interior of the R1S will be bigger than any Outback. As someone who has done VA to MA, or VA to ME round-trip, for over 25 years now....from the days when it was me, alone in a Neon, till now, when it's me, the wife, the toddler, and 2 dogs.........space is king.

We do know they're sitting on at least some overhead, as the fastest we've seen is ~180kW from other sources. Whether it's 20kW+ or 50kW+, they can unleash more.

Yes, but a 400V system can charge at over 200kW. The last 25% that Rivian is currently sitting on is significant. Of the new EV trucks coming to the market, only the Lightning is capped at a slower speed (150kW). The Silverado, CT, and the Hummer are all faster.

At this rate, gonna be a photo finish with other EVs.

Ah... <Insert minimal snow type and location>, but let's see if it can handle <author's personal definition of "real snow" that they never go out in anyway>

let's get some out the door first. lol

I'm hesitant about the CoPilot 360 or whatever Ford/Lincoln calls it. I'm spoiled. I need smart cruise and steering assist now. Maybe I'll test drive one. We're all done adding tax deductions, but the one we've got is only going to get bigger.

Lol. Wife, two dogs, toddler, myself, and all of our crap.

True. I need SIZE.

*sigh* we took the Volvo on its maiden voyage to VA over Christmas, and while the car performed just fine (29.8mpg), it's not big enough. I was really hoping to not be in the Volvo NEXT Christmas too. Might have to get a placeholder to replace the placeholder. And all that's left that checks...

Ever dealt with Tesla?

Does me no good without Max Pack dates

The problem with this line of thinking, as I'm sure you know, is if Rivian follows the Tesla model and makes iterations mid-year. They've only "refreshed" the S fully once (the newest version), but they did the front end a few years ago, and tons of tiny changes in the middle of model years. So...

so my horribly inefficient napkin math has me guesstimating my delivery for around this time next year....unless I hold out for the Max Pack

I've been explaining it like this: Physics is physics. It's still a big, boxy truck(SUV-as I'm getting the R1S and explaining it to people)....and in the ICE world, they give you a bigger gas tank to compensate. That's why you need 135 or 180kWh. Most people I talk to seem to get it after that.

When it broke down and left me stranded, they treated me like crap, as if I did something out of the ordinary to break it.

That's okay, my Tesla holdings paid for my Rivian IPO holdings, and might even pay for a chunk of my r1s.

the amount of salt on the MT FB post is palpable.

For a point of reference, the Rivian 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times almost exactly mirror the 2018 Model 3 Performance I had. Considering the hefty difference between the 2, that's pretty damn impressive.