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My driving use case can be even served with a Chevy Bolt so I don't really care about any of this, but it's about what I expected. I am still considering the ix3 instead purely because of the premium established brand factor and supposed driving dynamics. I just don't want something that drives...

Tests not done on a full 100% charge and rely on the car's percentage indicator are not good tests.

What did I ever do to you

LMAO stainless steel body is an advanced feature now, someone should tell DeLorean.

So it does ask you to take over sometimes. That's not L4. I'll follow the chart on SAE website over you. Even if it keeps doing minimum risk maneuvers and stops, that means after that someone has to manually drive. None of that is L4

Lmao you're a 🤡 not interested in serious discussion if you think CT is selling well. It got outsold by the F150 Lightning and even that wasn't good enough for Ford so they cancelled it. CT is Elon's vanity project that has been an utter failure. They've tooled up for 250k cars/year and sold...

i3 is a failure as much as the Tesla Roadster was. I don't think either one are failures but companies dipping their toes in EVs

Your anecdote does not match broad reality where FSD trials, even on V14, have shown a 1% conversion rate. I have a MY with HW4, had the v14 trial this January. Let me tell you the ways it "fails" but people gloss over it since it's not an actual accident and they bypass it by hitting the gas...

Hybrids and PHEV's also run the compressor off battery so it works that way with them too despite being ICE vehicles.

Only reason you're calling the iX a "flop" is the styling. It's EV components are reliable and work well since they're also in the i4, i5, and i7, which you didn't call a flop. BMW is frimly behind supporting Neue Klasse, as it's their future.

One correction, Tesla definitely leads in supervised autonomy. The problem with that is, 90% of what people want is just adaptive cruise with lane keeping and following roads on highways and there is no way to do that in a new Tesla unless you pay a subscription whereas many other cars include...

You're wrong, here is the SAE diagram directly from their website at sae.org: No implementation of Tesla FSD can drive itself without ever asking the "supervisor" to take over driving in certain cases. Therefore it's L2.

V13 was also end to end neural net, but with much lower resolution camera data and a lot less processing power. It was pre-v12 that was deterministic hard coded

Yeah because companies never make bad decisions. Cybertruck anyone?

There is not a single Tesla that you can buy capable of unsupervised autonomy today. They don't have the needed sensors nor the computing power

Yes, but it will be inflation adjusted to the 45k of today.

They had lifetime FSD in the Juniper Launch Edition, this is only for one year. Terrible deal.

looks like this monstrosity BMW sold ln the last decade.

That is not happening anytime soon. It took Tesla itself 10 years. If you're not satisfied with Lane Keep and Adaptive Cruise (and hopefully it stays on when you want to do an overtake), you shouldn't really consider the R2.

They have a new ICCU part number since January, so I'd be willing to take a chance on it now. But I like the Rivian more.