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You folks go ahead, I'm waiting for Coastal interior and Youtube music before buying. I hope they hurry up with both

It's my experience, not saying it's the gold standard but if you look at top complaints about model Y Juniper, it's still ride quality. Edmunds doesn't count since they're in California where all cars ride comfortably. Just look: https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-y

This is not true at all, only Tesla picks different sources for different years. RAV4 beat Tesla in 2024 if you pick the same source Tesla quotes for winning 2025 for example (JATO)

I am only believeing what I personally experienced with ride quality across various cars including Y refresh. You saying "Tesla has leapfrogged the competition in ride quality, noise, etc" and defending Tesla at every opportunity already tells me everything I need to know about your dishonest...

The UItium vehicles I was in (including Honda prologue) had way better ride quality than any model Y I've ridden or driven, so you're wrong. Their forums don't complain about ride quality, yet even Juniper owners still do to this day. Legacy makers really know how to build a car, Tesla does...

No, that's what my phone is for and I never drive to places with no coverage. I'd rather have the extra cargo room.

It's maybe equivalent to a Toyota, or a GM (excluding Cadillac) but not Lexus or German luxury level. It can never be with those frameless windows. Ride comfort is noticably worse then all of them.

Maybe a huge difference from the 2021-2022 Y's , but not a big comfort leap from the HW4 2023 Y's that had the "comfort suspension". I've ridden them all, the Juniper is just a tad quieter compared to the HW4 legacy Y, with comfort being about the same. Both are vastly more comfortable than a...

No lane keep unless you pay $100 a month or 6k over 5 years. Teslas are horrible deals now. I don't care if FSD is better lane keeping for long drives is all you need. Tesla also realized this and paywalled it behind the 100/month payment.

No they don't really work. Phantom wipes are not the only problem. It either wipes too slow or too fast in rain as well. None of these would be an issue with an included 2$ rain sensor in every other car.

21 of course. Better range and on road performance and cheaper. Unless you're going off road which few people will do, you're better off with 21. Replacements will be available by the time you need new tires and even if not i'm sure you can swap with someone on 20's straight up once the lower...

Strongly thinking of canceling my reservation purely because of what this a-hole silicon valley "exec" keeps saying. I don't really need carplay as long as they bring youtube music eventually. I just feel bad about giving money to a company that allows people like this publicly

Subaru's do not have more ground clearence than the average CUV like the CRV or the RAV4, they built their business on standard AWD, and appealing to women and being not flashy.

You can pay someone else a few hundred bucks to do the haggling for you if you're that averse. Personally I'll take less than an hour of haggling to save a few thousand, that's a nice hourly rate, but you can even outsource it through a broker.

I am on the list and I don't care the slightest bit about going off road. You're sorely mistaken if you think it's the off road capability or ground clearance that most people are shopping for. That's just a niche market and will always remain that way. Rivian wants to capture Model Y sales so...

R1 is still (and will always be) a niche vehicle. Just like it happened with Tesla on model X vs Y, the R2 will rocket past the R1 in sales.

That's because they're probably battery constrained and introduced the model with the smallest battery first. No such thing with R2 since all versions have the same battery so Rivian sells the highest profit margin models first.

Will that still be the case when in 3-4 years there are tens of thousands of R2's with 21" wheels that need new tires?

Will the launch edition still exist when the coastal interior becomes available? That's the only option I'm picking on my LE, I genuinely like the free silver color the best out of the available ones. I'd only swap it for a FJ Cruiser yellow if it was available.

The current X3 is also incredibly ugly. I was talking about previous gen facelifted model 2022-2025. That was peak BMW