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Cammisa put out a shameless promotional piece essentially commissioned by Tesla and you ate it up. My god you must be gullible.

Not nearly as many Chinese parts as Rivian. I looked one over recently and was dismayed to see all the stamped "made in China" parts.

Done. Reservation closed. Enjoy your unreliable, phantom battery draining Chinese parts-mobile. They should change the label on these to “assembled in US*” *with Chinese parts, engineered by tech bros.

Thanks dad. You know what you can do with your comment…

This scumbag company keeps pushing my order back. Can’t wait for them to go bankrupt first. Would make me happy to see them all on the unemployment line.

The Kia specs look very compelling, particularly for the price. Obviously less off-road capability than the Rivian, but likely better interior room, making it a good EV replacement for a Telluride. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42621986/2024-kia-ev9-specs-leaked/

Nor am I trying to tell everyone to get a long wheelbase. I’m saying they have a long wheelbase chassis, it’s relatively easy to put an SUV body on it, and there’s a market that would pay a premium for that.

Even with the Rivian’s 2nd row all the way back, making the 3rd row unusable by anyone but amputees, it’s several inches short in room compared to a Telluride. Or Explorer / Aviator. Or Audi Q7 or Mercedes GLS. Meaning it’s just really small for a 200” vehicle. Maybe stop defending it.

Unfortunately it's much smaller inside than a Telluride. It was designed by Tech bros who went a little overboard in making it hella cool, for an uncritical fanboy base. Rivian will be gone in a few years because the product is niche, overengineered and not designed for derivative models. The...

I completely disagree. You are making excuses for them and failing to see the business opportunity. You're overestimating how much it takes to produce the same chassis / body in different lengths. It would take relatively minimal capital and introduce minimal complexity - if they had properly...

I would prefer and having been arguing for a extended wheelbase as well. There's no reason they can't make two lengths seeing as plenty of other manufacturers do exactly that with their mid / large SUV offerings. I'll also add that the legroom dimensions are tight relative to the XC90, Durango...

Rear seat space is looking slightly better than I expected.

I’m a 7/2021 reservation and have been given a 2024 delivery date. You should consider yourself lucky that the clowns at Rivian have deemed you higher on the priority list.

My impression is that R1T delivery estimates are much shorter than R1S. Can we convert to R1T and potentially take delivery sooner?

This is me. 7/21 reservation and now a 2024 delivery date. I cannot think anything except they’re trying to shake loose pre-price increase reservation holders.

Tesla barely made it, and was within weeks of bankruptcy during the model 3 ramp, only saved by their failure to properly disclosure their dire situation in filings. Believe what you want, and go down with the burning ship. By the way, Vinfast is selling a markedly simpler to make SUV, with a...

Look at raw material prices and the complexity of what they’ve made. The my ARE losing money on every one they sell for the original price. And they’ll go bankrupt because of it.

Don’t worry. They’ll be bankrupt, with worthless stock and begging GM and Ford for a job.

There’s an appreciable chance that Rivian will be bankrupt before many of these orders are filled. They’re burning cash like crazy and will have to do a raise in a terrible environment. They’re producing too slowly and aren’t even making money on the trucks they do produce. In that case, our...

This is an R1S. No max pack, Silver with Adventure and 21” tires. I’m seeing people with Fall 2021 order dates getting 2023 delivery. These guys, as well as Lucid & Tesla, have no clue about customer service. They’re all a bunch of novice tech bros learning how to build a car. I actually hope...