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What a weird twist this thread has taken. I came to check in on Rivian's P2P and children are name-calling about faux self driving? It is not something Rivian is selling and no one here wants a Tesla. I hope this forum does not get invaded by the Teslastans.

Not iX3 but worth posting anyway. State of Charge got 385 miles on the 70mph range test of the new CLA Mercedes. For a vehicle that is EPA rated at 312, that is not too shabby.

Sure, the BMW in high trim all trims has greater max range. However, that trim the current iX3 50 US trim starts above the top trim R2's starting price (until the 40 arrives later next year). The BMW in high all available trims is capable of much faster DCFC speeds. However, DCFC sites that can...

Fewer trips than I would need to obtain an ROI on the performance upgrade.

We drove the dune with the tri-motor max pack and we have Michelin LTX tires on there. On a typical highway drive we can get 310 mi or so out of that vehicle at 70 mph realistically a usable range of maybe 270 on a 80% charge we're getting maybe 200 usable on that road out to Big bend you're...

We took the R1S out to Big Bend from Houston in March. It is a pain. These vehicles have insufficient range and charging that is too slow to make the trip tolerable. We are not going back to gasoline, but the next vehicles will be 800V and 300+ mile highway range (not Rivian range). The trip...

The iX5 looks to me like it is going to be the road trip master, but I have a soft spot for the iX4.

Good review from Thomas and Leah over at autogefuehl today. TLDW: The P10 held a 370kw charge and completed 10% - 80% in 16 minutes! P10 range of 335 at 60 mph and 260 miles at 80 mph P12 got 410 mi and 316 mi at 60mph / 80 mph iX3 got 450 mil and 340 mi at 60mph / 80 mph GLC was 330 and 280...

It is a real data point. Draw the conclusion you will. There are always asterisks. Proximity to service center. The random rivian allocation roulette wheel. Who knows? But reserved on June 16 invited to order Aug 18, estimated delivery 4-8 weeks. YMMV

I said i would report back when the invite came. I placed a new reservation on June 16 and today, exactly 9 weeks later, I was invited to order a launch edition. So I think we can call it. The original reservation backlog is now done (at least for the launch edition). It took a few weeks longer...

I was hoping they would at least update the ADAS to RAP1. Pretty un-compelling to me. I think R1 is going to struggle. OTOH probably good for resale since there is no difference between this one and our 2025.

Gen 1 R1T last week pulling average of 157.1 kwh / Peak 205 at Ionna. They are good stations. (SC sucked in comparison.)

This is what it means. Consistent with Company approach to range lables. (If interested, the ones below the R2 are the Lucids (game these data big time), a Wagoneer and the 2020 Model X.)

Hmmm MotorTrend 2022 BMW iX xDrive50: 312 miles / 315 miles 2023 Mercedes-EQ EQS450+ SUV: 292 miles / 305 miles

Good video with a good explanation of the EPA measurement process, as well as the C&D and Edmunds range testing procedures.

I just did a 1,200 mile trip from Houston to NW Arkansas (up Sunday back Wed) in my R1T and kept meticulous data logs to feed into my Claude model. What you are saying here creates a surprising artifact when comparing vehicles when modeled on this specific trip vs actuals: R1T G1 Lrg — 110 min...

There is no way you would get anything close to 180 miles. If you are at 20F windy and 80 mph (10 mph headwind = 90 mph) you will get in the very best case 150 miles of total range and 125 miles usable.

Option dash. Mac. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I object. It is unfair to paint all of us em dash lovers – and there are many of us around – as AI bots!

Agree and 75 mph is kind of slow. The speed limit from Houston to Dallas is 75 mpg and traffic flow is 80-85. Speed limit on I-10 west of San Antonio is 80 mph and 85+ is the norm. Rivian has a bigger problem IMO: we keep comparing this to a model y performance but the OOS data says that it has...