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So, couple things -- the slower charging is only slower peak charging. The LFP chemistry actually should hold a better curve and be better >= 80% or above. And as for performance, it's less peak performance but the nominal voltage of LFP is more steady through the lower states of charge, so...

Yep. I'm in an ID.4 right now which averages around 240-250 miles at full. But I'm also not heavy on the pedal so my guess-o-meter reads 240 at 80% charge. I plug in once every 4-5 days. It's not that I have to. I have a charger in my garage. I just don't need to. It's more than enough to run...

Yeah, this is really just a bunch of confusing legal mumbo jumbo so let me preface this: I am not a lawyer; for any actual tax advice and legal matters, consult your accountant and legal counsel, respectively. That being said, from how I saw it worded was this: This, to me, means that if...

That was real information. Just because it didn't appease you and fit into your narrative doesn't make it any less real.

I think you're forgetting that they have to appease stakeholders in some way, shape or form. And this isn't just for stakeholders. It shows Dual Motor holders, such as myself, that they are making progress. More importantly, Rivian is heavily tied to Amazon. Whether we like it or not. And they...

Your priorities do not line up with a business's priorities. I'm not sure what anyone expected when they started production? That they were literally going to build through the LE vehicles and deliver them one-by-one? I mean, that's just entirely too unrealistic. Only way to do this...

If it’s motors, enduro will go into quad I assume, too. The goal is total vertical integration

This coincides beautifully with what he said yesterday in his fireside chat about LFP battery packs shipping early next year. Their website currently states a 2024 ship date, so that would be roughly a year ahead of schedule Additionally, for those who haven't looked, LFP packs cannot option...

And what seems to be right on queue, RJ put a video of their dual motor assembly line in action! LETS GO, DUAL MOTOR ORDER PEOPLE! LETS GET HYPE RJ Scaringe (@rjscaringe) • Instagram photos and videos

Ah, cool, I just googled and they mentioned 105kWh at some point in 2020. That's fine; 260 miles is more than enough for *most* people, and is right in line with estimated mileage for the Large Pack when you factor in LFP charging to 100% while NMC will recommend a 75% charge limit for daily...

That's correct. But we have no details other than early next year in consumer models. And since LFP battery packs are heavier, we have two questions to answer. They're mutually exclusive. 1) Are they going to have a 135kWh pack, made possible by extending it into the Max Pack space, and that's...

They're also just heavier, so I don't think I responded well. Lemme try again: The question is -- are they going to extend the battery pack into the Max Pack area, carry the extra weight, and take the range reduction to max out the range? Or are they going to fill the Large Pack space, and...

You can't option quad motors with LFP, so they must be satisfied with their findings of the Enduro motor in the EDV applications. So, LFP will only ship when Enduro is ready. Both of which are going into the EDV vans today that are coming off the line.

So, it's important to note that LFP is still lithium-ion. But, it really depends on how they plan to execute this. There's the option of adding more batteries to make it 135kwh, and it only hitting 260 miles is the result of being less energy dense; or they go a lesser kwh pack, but it weights...

I really think buying from a start-up EV manufacturer and reliability and quality are mutually exclusive. ESPECIALLY a first run product.

The production issues are just, as you said, being inexperienced on the line. Running the line inefficiently (slower) is not going to do them any favors when they finally get support from suppliers and they want to start cranking these out. It's smart how they're running the line now. Also gives...

Tesla is the bar to meet. They’re the newest car company selling equally priced EVs. I can’t imagine anyone saying that Rivian should be meeting Audi or Porsche quality when they’ve been doing this for more than 70 years. That’s unrealistic.

I don’t know. I read a thread on Reddit yesterday about how bad Tesla is. I think Rivian is better in almost every way currently. We’ll see how they scale.

I think just size?

They actually have 3. EDV500, EDV700 and EDV900