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I think this conversation has run it's course. At least for me. So I"m gonna be done with it. Things are just getting stuck in the weeds of this little itty bitty factoid vs that itty bit factoid. This model make vs that mode make. Yadda yadda. It's getting too tedious. Starting to feel like...

Yes, your right it was early 2022. Personally I think we are passed "early". Again, I did ask recently and was told soon "we now expect to release that update in the coming months. Just as before, we'll make sure to provide you an email notification when that feature is launching." If you...

This is huge news! Ford is scaling up and executing, Rivian is taking step backward. I own some Rivian stock. As for shorting....just by pure math looking at the stock trading history. There is 100% upside to shorting Rivian (ie it goes to $0) and over negative 521% downside if it goes back...

All those conclusions Global Crossing were only obvious in hindsight. It really is an apples to oranges comparison for sure. And it's a totally different type of business. And I do agree Rivian's success from here forward will be execution. But man, I'll tell you, their short but limited...

Ford announces today they are upping production from 40k to 150k F150 Lightnings. More bad news for Rivian. Does anyone here remember Global Crossing?

Do you realize what you just said? You're saying I can't make any conclusions having not driven one....but YOU can. How's that logic work?

Was bored, seemed fun!

All really good things to think about. My initial post was more a gut off-the-cuff thought with the Mercedes news of the EQS than a thought-out premediated idea. But as I have had a day to think about it....my main point is probably that the EV SUV & Truck competition is coming fast and...

Ah, got it!

Mention any luxury brand and someone will label it as a douche mobile. But owning a "luxury" brand vehicle comes with the baggage of the brand whether people want to admit it or not. Frankly owning "X" simply because it is "X" and represents a status symbol if fine by me. If that is what...

I don't know what this comment means. What am I missing?

Oh no, a Seth Godin fan! I get enough proselytizing on Sunday. Get me outta here. j/k

Funny! Well I was bored, had a thought and the moderator approved my account. If necessity was the benchmark...none of us would be ordering a Rivian!

There are a lot of stupid reasons to buy or not buy a vehicle...but this is not one of them. You might think I say this tongue-in-cheek but I'm not. I'm serious. This is a perfectly valid & geniune for reasons I can't quite articulate cause I'm tired....

Predicting the future is dumb. That said, at least in next 12-18 months you will likely come out ok with your ICE purchase when the time comes to sell. Nothing is certain, but odds are in your favor.

The battery size is really a big deal actually. I have a pre-order for a reason and the the battery is a BIG reason. It makes the truck pretty equivalent to a gas/diesel counterparts. It has just enough range to not make it a tradeoff making for local around-the-state towing. There are...

Good goal! I saw an Urus the other day on the road. Looks so horrible in pics but it actually looked pretty svelte person. So he might have you in style points....

I'm kinda hurt I've got only 1 "No" vote. Most valid points I think so far are not considering the Cherokee / Wagonner / Rover market. Heck, a Grand Wagoneer is $88k these days! I'd rather have an R1S for sure.

Go fight with someone on FB. That's what it's for. If you want to discuss and not try to "win" arguments, I'm here.

Look, calling me incredibly naive is hardly the worst thing I've been called even today..but chill out man. This is just a discussion on a thought I had today about Rivian products.....