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“I'm not sure I fully understand your point here - is it that you disagree with using tax dollars to fund good public schools and affordable healthcare access?” my point does not depend on me specifying which point of your list I disagree with.My point is we differ on where and how tax dollars...

I’m not convinced about everything on your list. The thing about the power to tax is that it’s very effective at convincing people like me to pay for things with which they disagree. the result is a system that gets to experiment at a larger scale. Sometimes it results in good things like Mars...

Here in IL, where these things are being built, I still don’t know if it’s going to be plated as a “b” truck or an EV. knowing Illinois they will try to double tax it as both.

Nah. Even with a paint job, I’m not buying.

Better handling in adverse conditions, which contributes to driver safety. better performance enables more aggressive drivers to engage in maneuvers that shave time off drives, or thrill seekers that love to stomp on the accelerator. better reliability appeals to the long term (20+ year)...

The best use of solar on a car is ventilation in the hot summer sun.

Here in Chicago, I pay $7.50 each way when I go to the city from the suburbs. There’s subsidies, but none of them are enumerated in my tax bills. Presumably the taxes flow from property taxes through state/local/fed to railroads, but I have no idea how much the total I pay for it really is. At...

So same studies I’ve seen. best one I’ve read so far is here: https://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/19457/Is-my-Electric-Vehicle-Really-Green.aspx Does a good job of factoring in regional effects and references some data on battery carbon burden.

An insightful article that identifies some of the problems of a stainless steel body. We’ve identified a few points in our conversations here. This article discusses some of the problems involved in repairing the DMC-12 stainless steel body as a point of comparison for the CT stainless steel...

sure. We start by assuming the battery works. Then, using physics, work backwards to deduce how it works. I’d neglected to consider thermal mass. Math is fun!

Not a Tesla spy. Don’t like Tesla’s engineering process or what it does to people (glass door et Al). Don’t like his over emotional pt-Barnum style publicity. don't like premature rollout of features ( summon) without adequate risk assessment and mitigation. Won’t consider a Tesla until it...

well said. Nailed it.

[ 146k $100 refundable reservations is no joke there are other no joke stats. Neither are 10.000 $1000 reservations from amazon are a joke. Nor are the unquantified preorders from rivian R1T nor is the dip in Tesla’s stock that followed the reveal of the CT. I think the price point is...

guinea pigs that I expect will be treated VERY well. At least if they paid attention to Toyota’s successful roll out of the Prius, et al. Treat early adopters right, they become fanboys, advocates, evangelists, champions, and/or and promoters. Treat them badly and they become trolls.

I didn’t miss your point. You want to separate aesthetics and safety from the rest of the conversation because there are other points worth discussing, and they are getting eclipsed, not just here, but across the net. This is, as you know, the market in action. Perhaps the storm will pass, and...

Anyone want to take a stab at what the carbon payback time is for an EV? I’ve seen some studies, and I recall that the carbon payback is region dependant, and on the order of 5 years.

I would be absolutely shocked if they did, but I’ll admit the possibility. It really depends on how much concept development and market research preceded the concept car, and how well they understand the target market. Since I have a very negative reaction to the aesthetics, I am clearly not...

Prototype is different than concept. Concepts are for exploration of new ideas. Prototypes are intended for formal testing. Still may be splitting hairs here. No. But this back end isn’t a cap. It’s more like a trunk. Which imho makes it more of a hatchback or SUV. But ultimately the state...

We know very little about the trim level differences. Most of the cost of these vehicles is outside the battery. 100kWh = 14000 now, and 10,000 in 2022 assuming the current market trend continues to reduce cost per kWh 18% per year. Rivians skateboard design. Is mass production ready, and...

on what basis do we do that? it’s 25% more than rivians range. However this is concept car vs production prototype. So, not really apples to apples. We need to compare CD and battery capacity, and those aren’t published yet. but guessing capacities between two trucks are comparable. If CD is...