Donald Stanfield
Well-Known Member
You do realize that power is needed to fuel a gas pump right? You also realize that there are these magic things called chargers that are all over the place right? So if my county is out of power I can go to the charger in the next county over and plug in. Not to mention I have the ability to power things around my house WITH my EV where I don't have that option with the gas car in my garage.It looks like Amazon backing away. What are they backing away from? From EV’s in general and from Rivian.
That’s not a good look. It suggests that other people’s fears may be grounded in reality. That EV’s are too expensive and too reliant on electricity, which is a live source that could be stopped in an instant, vs fuel which lasts a while.
Consider if you were in a natural disaster situation where civilization temporarily collapsed.
Several weeks ago southern Michigan lost power. For the first three days I was thinking about how my (future) Rivian could have run my house. On day 4 of no power I realized that my Rivian and my house would be dead and I’d be SOL.
Now what if the power was out for weeks? I still could have hopped in my gas vehicle and driven elsewhere. Or if I had a gas generator I would have been fine all along.
I’m not crazy in thinking that the world could go to shit in the next decade. “The end of the world is just the beginning” is a good read, and only $2.99 in audiobook.
It’s likely that the world will be fine but maybe not. But all of that makes me question whether I want a reliable gas vehicle in a world with a ubiquitous gas delivery system or if I want to bet the farm on electric.
I’m obviously hedging. A few years ago I was talking myself out of a Rivian that I wanted so badly. Now I find I’m talking myself into one that I want less so.
All of that is to say that electrics have their place and may be the future, but lots of people are wondering if the future is now or within the decade, or if it’s a future that we should walk slowly and carefully to over the next 50 years. We’ll see.
Lastly, if I was in one of these areas where long power outages were commonplace over a wide area I would invest in some solar energy systems and then I would still have power AND fuel for my vehicle every time the sun was shining while you were waiting at the gas station. Those aren't even the only risks of ICE vehicles.
IF we go to war, if OPEC countries start messing with the price, inflation, pipeline mishap, trucker strikes and a few more things I've most likely forgotten to include all affect the price of gas MUCH more than the price of electricity. To pretend that ICE was some hedge to a fragile EV eco system is frankly pretty silly considering all the things that can hurt the fuel supply in this country.
I would strongly suggest reconsidering if you are this unsure of your purchase. For me personally having this truck has done nothing but convince me that EVs are the IMMEDIATE future and the way forward. They are simply more convenient and the power grid is less likely to be as widely affect as a pipeline attack. I remember a year and a half ago the pipeline that fed this area was affected by hackers and fuel became extremely scarce more or less overnight. Unless you have a fuel tank on your property of several hundred gallons, of which the fuel will only last 6 months or less, on hand all the time you're going to be screwed by something like that whereas someone with an EV will shrug and go eh.
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