Anyone wish you could use the sport throttle mapping in other modes?

[beatle]

I'm still getting used to my truck, and it's great, but for everyday driving I wish I could have the truck in standard ride height, but with the sport throttle mapping. The all purpose throttle mapping is pretty sluggish. I'm coming from a Model S performance that I drove in ludicrous mode all the time. I could have it sedate and polite most of the time, but absolutely instant power when I needed (wanted) it. With the all purpose throttle mapping, there is a slight lag, and the power takes a bit of time to build. In sport mode the truck is quick and responsive, but still easy to drive.

Even in low/soft, the sport mode suspension is not quite as comfortable as all purpose. Being able to set your preferred throttle mapping in each mode (or at least set one for all purpose) would be a nice, presumably easy thing to do, though I wonder about the rear axle disconnect with all purpose mode. On second thought, perhaps just having the option for standard ride height in sport mode would be all that's needed for daily driving. When range is a consideration, all purpose mode would do the trick.

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I get your desire but I think Rivian has really good reasons to limit the power at higher suspension settings. I don't think the suspension could handle full power on the higher (than low) settings.

At least in my quad, flooring it in all purpose feels bad. Even with the reduced power it struggles to maintain grip and if you are turning it feels like something is about to break.

Your Model S suspension doesn't go up very high, so you don't have the same suspension height related failures. But on the model X where the suspension has more lift, there are tons of reports of people screwing up their suspension over and over by accelerating heavily at higher suspension settings. Search any Tesla forum for half shaft shudder if you are not familiar with the problems.

 

[evcars4all]

wish I could have the truck in standard ride height, but with the sport throttle mapping.

I have a Feb 2024 R1T Dual Performance. Until last week’s software update, All purpose was a bit lazy with the power. Race mode was a completely different machine except that the suspension damping was almost non existent even in ‘firm’ mode

with last week’s update, I found the throttle mapping in All Purpose mode was made a little more res. It’s no longer necessary to push the pedal all of the way down to get the truck to jump forward.

While race mode suspension got firmer ( ‘firm’ will rattle my teeth out on rough pavement), they did something to the All Purpose handling. I can’t nail it down, but it seems less precise and more like a 7000lb truck than it used to.

I haven’t driven it enough since the update to figure out if I prefer driving in All Purpose mode or Race.

 

[beatle]

I get your desire but I think Rivian has really good reasons to limit the power at higher suspension settings. I don't think the suspension could handle full power on the higher (than low) settings.

At least in my quad, flooring it in all purpose feels bad. Even with the reduced power it struggles to maintain grip and if you are turning it feels like something is about to break.

Your Model S suspension doesn't go up very high, so you don't have the same suspension height related failures. But on the model X where the suspension has more lift, there are tons of reports of people screwing up their suspension over and over by accelerating heavily at higher suspension settings. Search any Tesla forum for half shaft shudder if you are not familiar with the problems.

I had a 2015 P85D before my current car, and it had the shudder, but it was due to a bad clevis mount, not necessarily the ride height. I'd never heard of it damaging the suspension.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10162295-9999.pdf

 

[JamboF4]

I'm still getting used to my truck, and it's great, but for everyday driving I wish I could have the truck in standard ride height, but with the sport throttle mapping. The all purpose throttle mapping is pretty sluggish. I'm coming from a Model S performance that I drove in ludicrous mode all the time. I could have it sedate and polite most of the time, but absolutely instant power when I needed (wanted) it. With the all purpose throttle mapping, there is a slight lag, and the power takes a bit of time to build. In sport mode the truck is quick and responsive, but still easy to drive.

Even in low/soft, the sport mode suspension is not quite as comfortable as all purpose. Being able to set your preferred throttle mapping in each mode (or at least set one for all purpose) would be a nice, presumably easy thing to do, though I wonder about the rear axle disconnect with all purpose mode. On second thought, perhaps just having the option for standard ride height in sport mode would be all that's needed for daily driving. When range is a consideration, all purpose mode would do the trick.

Consider for a moment, you came from a performance SEDAN…this is a 7200 lbs, high roll-center TRUCK. IMHO, trying to make them behave the same is the LUDICROUS part. Wait a few months, get a QuadMax and do 2.6s all day. Just an opinion, of course.

 

[beatle]

It's not so "ludicrious" as you state. It's clear the truck has the capability to accelerate promptly when in a specific mode. Heck, even my Lightning had a sharp throttle response, though with a bit less torque and hp than the R1T. The difference in height between low and standard is 1.4".

 

[350Industrial]

I've been hoping for Rivian to unlock sport (full) power/pedal responsiveness in All purpose mode since I took delivery. Sadly, I don't think it'll happen for the reasons stated already.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

These are examples of exactly why the throttle mapping should not be more linear or the pedal lighter. Not everyone have the same level of skill or reflexes to handle the amount of power any of the R1 trims can deliver in an instant. These incidents would be a lot more frequent if pedal was lighter and/or more responsive. And each one is a potential legal entanglement for Rivian, even if not at fault. Lawyers and suits cost time and $.

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/11/08...sh-due-to-unfamiliarity-with-tech-police-say/





https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivian/s/b9nK9vtIW3

 

[beatle]

There's a lot more to those stories than just throttle mapping. This has happened with ICE cars as well ever since there have been things to run into. Power application is just one factor in the crash.

As I mentioned in my first post, I just want the sport mode throttle mapping to be available in other modes (really just all purpose) or to allow for standard ride height in sport mode. I realize that some people prefer a more relaxed throttle mapping, and that's okay too. Snow, towing, and off road modes are likely better off as being less aggressive. Choice is good, and one of the big advantages of an EV.

 

[RWerksman]

I think that the throttle mapping should just be an option, just like ride height, suspension firmness, and steering weight (in a Tesla). Drive modes should set those options, with your ability to override them, plus any non-selectable stuff like what is needed for rock crawling / snow driving safety.

Idiots should not be the bar that Rivian is programming to. Give us all of the options and the freedom to use them how we wish.

I don't understand why you, as a Rivian owner, would want any less.

 

[R1Tom]

I'd be happy just knowing how much power I have available in various modes. I love how conserve shows the part of the power range that is not available. I wish the IP would show the same for other modes like All Purpose, if available power is something less than 100%.

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