Not able to navigate to addresses in contacts?

[CommodoreAmiga]

On this topic… be careful even just navigating to an address. I’ve had 3 times (once selecting a location, twice Inputting an exact address) rivian nav has brought me to the totally wrong location. Address verified as correct. A couple times it’s been just a few blocks away, once it was 20 mins away.

That happened to me, too. I realized I was I’m the wrong parking lot so I searched for the location, again. The pin was dropped in the RIGHT spot, but the route lines went somewhere completely different. I don’t even comprehend how that bug works out.

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[Underwhirled]

I don’t do a bunch of out-of-town driving, but I almost always use navigation for ETA’s, traffic congestion, and re-routing. Those functions are life saving. Unless the Rivian app can get addresses from your calendar events and send them to the truck, I’ll use the phone for some situations.

It will take them time to implement the features that want. Eventually, we should see the need for any supplemental workarounds fall away. In the short term, it sounds like we all have phones to get us through the (hopefully temporary) rough spots?

 

[dduffey]

The problem is that it must be area specific, because I've never had a situation where the NAV couldn't do something Google could. I've even brought up Google Maps to test/compare on many occasions regarding route, travel time, etc. and it's been in line. I've never needed to use Google for anything. The only NAV issue I have is not picking up any EA stations on certain long routes, like Austin to Denver, just says I can't get there. I can even route to southern NM, which it doesn't recognize the stations along I10, but if I route to Big Bend, it will pick up the same route and stations I would have used to NM. This was all just test scenarios though, never actually done any of those trips.

Good news is you are in SoCal, where they have offices/employees to likely experience the same things you are so you can be sure you won't be falling through the cracks.

Austin / Dallas is painful, I have done the trip a couple times. Maybe the nav is taking into consideration EA outages (but doesn't explain NM/big bend).

Charging at the EA north of Waco was an eye opening experience for me and even now I know the rain dance needed to make it work, we decided not to take the R1T on our trip to Dallas a few weeks ago.

I would do it again myself "for the adventure", but not with family in tow.

 

[Dark-Fx]

That happened to me, too. I realized I was I’m the wrong parking lot so I searched for the location, again. The pin was dropped in the RIGHT spot, but the route lines went somewhere completely different. I don’t even comprehend how that bug works out.

I'm not sure if mapbox suffers from this, but I've had other mapping programs that seem to have a different model for display of roads and what's actually routable. Even though something shows on the map, the routing engine might not know about it.

On our recent trip to Hocking Hills, I finally experienced the issue that others have complained about in the past. The POIs show up on the map, but you can't search for them by voice or by text. I'm able to save it with a long press to put my own pin on the map, but the pin gets labelled just as the city name and can't be renamed, so it's hard to remember what it was for unless I'm using it immediately.

I have noticed that sometimes the mapping system seems to pick the wrong road because it's closer to the pin than the correct road.

 

[cbuckley]

Austin / Dallas is painful, I have done the trip a couple times. Maybe the nav is taking into consideration EA outages (but doesn't explain NM/big bend).

Charging at the EA north of Waco was an eye opening experience for me and even now I know the rain dance needed to make it work, we decided not to take the R1T on our trip to Dallas a few weeks ago.

I would do it again myself "for the adventure", but not with family in tow.

That charging spot in North Waco is one of the closest to where I live but I’ve never used it. What issues did you have with that location?

 

[dduffey]

That charging spot in North Waco is one of the closest to where I live but I’ve never used it. What issues did you have with that location?

I posted the details here, not everyone felt the way I did on the forum: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/its-true-what-they-say-about-ea.6087/

It's the only DCFC for travel between Austin and Dallas metro area (and a single 350k handle).

In comparison there several supercharger stops including multiple 250k stops and a "magnitude more cables" that also always work.

With two kids the flexibility that provides is wonderful, we usually have a discussion of where do you want to stop (Waco and get cookies or further and get beef jerky).

When kids fall asleep on the way back you adjust and skip the stop you where going to make and go to the next, and you don't have to "read plugshare comments."

With EA none of those things are true. You have to "check plugshare," do a dance, hope there isn't a line, and cross your fingers that they still work on your return trip.

Even in the best case scenario where everything is in your favor, you have a single option at the back of a Walmart parking lot.

That's why I would not do it again (with family).

 

[cbuckley]

I posted the details here, not everyone felt the way I did on the forum: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/its-true-what-they-say-about-ea.6087/

It's the only DCFC for travel between Austin and Dallas metro area (and a single 350k handle).

In comparison there several supercharger stops including multiple 250k stops and a "magnitude more cables" that also always work.

With two kids the flexibility that provides is wonderful, we usually have a discussion of where do you want to stop (Waco and get cookies or further and get beef jerky).

When kids fall asleep on the way back you adjust and skip the stop you where going to make and go to the next, and you don't have to "read plugshare comments."

With EA none of those things are true. You have to "check plugshare," do a dance, hope there isn't a line, and cross your fingers that they still work on your return trip.

Even in the best case scenario where everything is in your favor, you have a single option at the back of a Walmart parking lot.

That's why I would not do it again (with family).

Thanks for explaining. I live about 45 min south of that location and have identified that as the only public “fast” charging option nearby and one that I may need to stop at if in a bind when traveling.

I’ve not been brave enough to even consider taking a family trip in my R1T due to concerns about reliability and the fact that my wife’s Escalade, though gas-guzzling, is better for trips with the kids and luggage. My R1T is my daily driver but after having a hydraulic leak and experiencing great difficulty just trying to get a flat tire repaired, I’m hesitant to risk dealing with those types of potential issues far from home base and with kids in tow.

 

[DJG]

I posted the details here, not everyone felt the way I did on the forum: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/its-true-what-they-say-about-ea.6087/

It's the only DCFC for travel between Austin and Dallas metro area (and a single 350k handle).

In comparison there several supercharger stops including multiple 250k stops and a "magnitude more cables" that also always work.

With two kids the flexibility that provides is wonderful, we usually have a discussion of where do you want to stop (Waco and get cookies or further and get beef jerky).

When kids fall asleep on the way back you adjust and skip the stop you where going to make and go to the next, and you don't have to "read plugshare comments."

With EA none of those things are true. You have to "check plugshare," do a dance, hope there isn't a line, and cross your fingers that they still work on your return trip.

Even in the best case scenario where everything is in your favor, you have a single option at the back of a Walmart parking lot.

That's why I would not do it again (with family).

I'd definitely just plan on using 150kw chargers as a matter of practice, the 350kw don't alter the charge time much even when working and are more often than not the ones that are down (because of more heat affecting temp sensors and/or those are the ones that lose them money). There's also times when the 150kw will be faster because they are less likely to derate. I've never been to the Waco one, but the Houston route has been flawless over the last 2 years.

 

[cjust2006]

I'd definitely just plan on using 150kw chargers as a matter of practice, the 350kw don't alter the charge time much even when working and are more often than not the ones that are down (because of more heat affecting temp sensors and/or those are the ones that lose them money). There's also times when the 150kw will be faster because they are less likely to derate. I've never been to the Waco one, but the Houston route has been flawless over the last 2 years.

The Houston one over in Stafford? Because I-10 & Yale and I-10 and East BW8 let me down every, single, time.

 

[DJG]

The Houston one over in Stafford? Because I-10 & Yale and I-10 and East BW8 let me down every, single, time.

Talking the route from Austin, so Columbus, Katy and the Walmart near downtown (I10 and Yale). And before you ask, no I don't consider every plug not being available and working to be a let down, because I can only plug one it to the vehicle unfortunately. I've never been to an EA station with all plugs available, but I've never not been able to accomplish my goal with little to no fuss or had to wait. Anything over 100kw below the tapering threshold is a success to me, because I don't care about 5 minutes here or there. I did use Yale last month. First station stopped the session after two seconds a couple times, moved to next one over, it derated a little to like 110kw. That's all perfectly fine to me, no harm no foul. It's the secret to a happy life, low/realistic expectations and flexibility.

That's my threshold, even though I acknowledge the issues that can cause with scaling and more use. I'm also not suggesting my experience/expectations are someone else's. I use them a few times a year, not a few times a week, so divine luck can also be in my favor.

 

[NY_Rob]

All this wouldn't even be a problem if they just gave us AA/Carplay but alas...

Yup!

Let Rivian still develop/offer their own nav solution if they think it's so beneficial.
But if we had a choice to use AA or CP or Rivian nav... there would be zero complaints period.

 

[cjust2006]

Talking the route from Austin, so Columbus, Katy and the Walmart near downtown (I10 and Yale). And before you ask, no I don't consider every plug not being available and working to be a let down, because I can only plug one it to the vehicle unfortunately. I've never been to an EA station with all plugs available, but I've never not been able to accomplish my goal with little to no fuss or had to wait. Anything over 100kw below the tapering threshold is a success to me, because I don't care about 5 minutes here or there. I did use Yale last month. First station stopped the session after two seconds a couple times, moved to next one over, it derated a little to like 110kw. That's all perfectly fine to me, no harm no foul. It's the secret to a happy life, low/realistic expectations and flexibility.

That's my threshold, even though I acknowledge the issues that can cause with scaling and more use. I'm also not suggesting my experience/expectations are someone else's. I use them a few times a year, not a few times a week, so divine luck can also be in my favor.

3/6 totally down, another stopping after a minute, one never getting above 35kw, and one that's occupied with two people waiting ahead of me is a total fail, no matter how optimistic I went into it.

 

[DJG]

3/6 totally down, another stopping after a minute, one never getting above 35kw, and one that's occupied with two people waiting ahead of me is a total fail, no matter how optimistic I went into it.

Yep, bound to happen sometimes. Just go do some people watching in Walmart, you won't be disappointed and it will lift your spirits.

To be fair, I've had that exact same experience at a gas station on more than one occasion, though obviously not as frequent as at an EA station.

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