Toyo Open Country A/T III EV Tires (LT275/65R20) - Fantastic (Review & Efficiency Stats)

[Kelvn]

How is the noise after a couple thousand miles? Also @superfluid what radio are you using on the trails?

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[risingphoenix]

How is the noise after a couple thousand miles? Also @superfluid what radio are you using on the trails?

Noise is the same - it's an AT tire (LT rated) so it has a low frequency hum that doesn't bother me but will not be as quiet as an AS tire.

 

[Kelvn]

Guess I’m just more considering how they compare to the stock Pirellis after wear.

 

[superfluid]

How is the noise after a couple thousand miles? Also @superfluid what radio are you using on the trails?

Noise remains low overall. I noticed some zipping sound when turning left from the right front tire when the sound bounced off gutters and came through my open window but I believe this has more to do with an alignment issue than the tires. I don't hear anything similar from the left side.

The radios are Motorola T600 Talkabouts. They're waterproof and have a built-in flashlight and red light for night use. They've been solid for spotting, hiking, camping, snowboarding. Raw range isn't the most impressive but they work well for those use cases. Note that they're FRS only while a lot of off-road groups and parks like GMRS, mostly because GMRS can utilize relays to increase coverage. But FRS-only radios tend to be a lot cheaper than GMRS radios, so you can buy more of them for more people to use. We have four Talkabouts we hand to people who join us without radios.

 

[risingphoenix]

Guess I’m just more considering how they compare to the stock Pirellis after wear.

the Pirellis after 15k are a hate crime and completely intolerable. If that’s your bar the Toyos are devoid of sound.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Noise remains low overall. I noticed some zipping sound when turning left from the right front tire when the sound bounced off gutters and came through my open window but I believe this has more to do with an alignment issue than the tires. I don't hear anything similar from the left side.

The radios are Motorola T600 Talkabouts. They're waterproof and have a built-in flashlight and red light for night use. They've been solid for spotting, hiking, camping, snowboarding. Raw range isn't the most impressive but they work well for those use cases. Note that they're FRS only while a lot of off-road groups and parks like GMRS, mostly because GMRS can utilize relays to increase coverage. But FRS-only radios tend to be a lot cheaper than GMRS radios, so you can buy more of them for more people to use. We have four Talkabouts we hand to people who join us without radios.

GMRS also include FRS channels. Channels 1 through 22. Maximum allowed transmitting wattage for FRS is 2W. Max for GMRS is 50W for mobile, repeater and base stations, and 15W for fixed stations. Most handhelds are around 5W or less. FCC says one must possess a GMRS license ($35 for 10 yrs) if transmitting on a GMRS radio. But it isn't being monitored and no one has ever been prosecuted. Baofeng GMRS handhelds (and their derivatives sold under many brands) are inexpensive. Some are less than name brand FRS radios.

 

[Kelvn]

Noise remains low overall. I noticed some zipping sound when turning left from the right front tire when the sound bounced off gutters and came through my open window but I believe this has more to do with an alignment issue than the tires. I don't hear anything similar from the left side.

The radios are Motorola T600 Talkabouts. They're waterproof and have a built-in flashlight and red light for night use. They've been solid for spotting, hiking, camping, snowboarding. Raw range isn't the most impressive but they work well for those use cases. Note that they're FRS only while a lot of off-road groups and parks like GMRS, mostly because GMRS can utilize relays to increase coverage. But FRS-only radios tend to be a lot cheaper than GMRS radios, so you can buy more of them for more people to use. We have four Talkabouts we hand to people who join us without radios.

I was looking into FRS/GMRS combos like the GM-30, wasn’t sure if I’d be limiting myself with FRS only but my use case would probably only be between vehicles within my group, so maybe FRS is the way to go.

the Pirellis after 15k are a hate crime and completely intolerable. If that’s your bar the Toyos are devoid of sound.

Yes that’s my bar for ATs, I’m at 16k miles and 7/32 left. Thinking about AT3, OC RT, and KO3. RT would probably be more for the look, KO3 because it’s used so widely. And the AT3 EV because it seems the most balanced.

 

[superfly_snook]

the Pirellis after 15k are a hate crime and completely intolerable. If that’s your bar the Toyos are devoid of sound.

yes but I think what isn’t known is how the Toyo’s sound after 15k and we maybe won’t know for a while. The Pirellis were fairly quiet for the first 15k at least in my opinion and then they became brutal as you eloquently put it.

 

[risingphoenix]

yes but I think what isn’t known is how the Toyo’s sound after 15k and we maybe won’t know for a while. The Pirellis were fairly quiet for the first 15k at least in my opinion and then they became brutal as you eloquently put it.

Oem tires suck.

 

[abirozy]

good evening everyone.

Again, please excuse my ignorance, but I have a rivian blue R1T with the stock 21's and am switching to 20's. I like an aggressive look but realistically will do little off roading, so would like to try to maintain some of the quietness and efficiency of my 21's.

I think I have settled on the Toyo's in the SL and am thinking of the MSW 52's in the polished finish that looks similar to the stock 20" for the rivians.

1). Does anyone know of any discounts available? So far, tire rack has the best price, installed through America's tire, but I don't see any sale of discount.

2). In Socal, tirerack uses America's tire to install. When you check out through them, does it include transferring the TPMS from my current tires to the new ones? If not, does anyone know how to add that to my install?

3). Is it a good idea to use my existing TPMS or get new ones?

4). Since I am going from 21"s to 20's in the 275/65/20, do I need to go to the service center to have the wheel size changed, or has there been an update to allow me to do it, and if so, where is it? (I could not find that option)

5). I have seen in these posts where the noise of the toyo is better than the stock 20's, but can anyone tell me if it will be significantly noisier than the stock 21's?

any other advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated. I am thinking of doing this in the next week or so.

Best

Adam

 

[cff1349]

good evening everyone.

Again, please excuse my ignorance, but I have a rivian blue R1T with the stock 21's and am switching to 20's. I like an aggressive look but realistically will do little off roading, so would like to try to maintain some of the quietness and efficiency of my 21's.

I think I have settled on the Toyo's in the SL and am thinking of the MSW 52's in the polished finish that looks similar to the stock 20" for the rivians.

1). Does anyone know of any discounts available? So far, tire rack has the best price, installed through America's tire, but I don't see any sale of discount.

2). In Socal, tirerack uses America's tire to install. When you check out through them, does it include transferring the TPMS from my current tires to the new ones? If not, does anyone know how to add that to my install?

3). Is it a good idea to use my existing TPMS or get new ones?

4). Since I am going from 21"s to 20's in the 275/65/20, do I need to go to the service center to have the wheel size changed, or has there been an update to allow me to do it, and if so, where is it? (I could not find that option)

5). I have seen in these posts where the noise of the toyo is better than the stock 20's, but can anyone tell me if it will be significantly noisier than the stock 21's?

any other advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated. I am thinking of doing this in the next week or so.

Best

Adam

Discount Tire (America’s Tire on west coast) has 5% military and veteran discount.

 

[abirozy]

Discount Tire (America’s Tire on west coast) has 5% military and veteran discount.

thanks for that. My brother is a vet. maybe I can have him get it.

 

[cff1349]

Dumb question. I have R1T QM G1 (275/65 r20).
Cold tire pressure is 48psi.
SL version of Toyo AT3 EV - Max rating is 51 psi. So if I inflate to 48 psi cold, and drive in summer, it’ll prolly be 55psi (nitrogen). Would that void my warranty?
Does that mean that I’m pretty much only able to put in the LT version rated to 80psi?

idk why but I thought there was another thread discussing the load vs psi rating but maybe I’ll have to ask ChatGPT .

 

[cff1349]

Also looks like bad timing…. Tariffs? This was in the mid 400s (434~) in March. Now it’s 517 each, pre install/taxes etc. 2680 after install/road hazard/taxes/military discount etc.

 

[SoCal Rob]

Also looks like bad timing…. Tariffs? This was in the mid 400s (434~) in March. Now it’s 517 each, pre install/taxes etc. 2680 after install/road hazard/taxes/military discount etc.

Inflation, tariffs, or both. I paid $386.81 per tire on 02/28 for 4 of the SLs. That is for the tire only without any other fees or taxes since those vary by location.

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