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Nothing particularly earth shattering but....

1. I actually brought my truck back to life the night before by jumping the primary battery at the rear jump point for a minute. For whatever reason, that reset everything and by the time the tech arrived the next day the truck had fully charged (on it's own) the batteries. It was normal/driveable except for some error codes that need to be cleared. Batteries were replaced anyways as they had been discharged down below 5 volts. Earlier in the day I jumped the secondary battery. While it woke the truck up too, it was only temporary and the batteries discharged again once charger removed. Don't ask me what all this means, I have no idea just reporting what transpired.

2. The Rivian batteries are just cheap sealed lead acid batteries. 12V 18ah. I've got a ton of them laying around I use on my race cars. They are the exact same, probably all made in the same factory (hah). Size, ah, post locations & thread size...everything. See pics, sorry the Rivian one is fuzzy (I deleted the wrong image).

3. Apparently the passenger battery (secondary) controls anything on the right side of the truck and the primary everything on the left side of the truck. Weird. And because of that you need to make sure you have the negative terminals jumpered of you ever disconnect & reconnect your batteries. They both need to be powered on at the exact same time lest the system may not sync correctly.

4. Removing the frunk and getting access to everything is ridiculously easy. Remove trim and it exposes 6 bolts and two electrical connectors for the emergency frunk exit...boom frunk out in like 15 minutes. Be prepared though, you'll break a fair amount of clips doing so. What the frunk removal exposes is the beauty of the simplicity of an EV compared to an ICE vehicle. The electronics/software aside of course. In these pics (again not great ones) you can see the ABS pump (next to foot). The AC compressor (simple to service). The two inverters below the battery. The heater (aka a blow dryer on left side, hard to see). The seat chillers (left side - directly opposite the abs pump). Two front motor mounts. Anyways, it's all so simple and easy to access.

Finally, you could clearly replace your own batteries if you wanted. But you won't be able to clear codes. To that end, I did notice that Rivian recently removed the language from the User Manual that say you can get a subscription to the Service Manual on request. Bummer!

Rivian has a lot of good & competent people working in the Minneapolis service center.

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Great write-up. Thanks for sharing. Broken clips aside, replacing seems fairly straightforward, minus the code reset. Which means owners can’t self-service this for now.
 

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Thanks for the informative write up. They really need to help owners or 3rd parties to deal with this. It should not require a service call or visit to replace those batteries. The service centers have enough to deal with.
 
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Thanks for the informative write up. They really need to help owners or 3rd parties to deal with this. It should not require a service call or visit to replace those batteries. The service centers have enough to deal with.
Normally I would agree with you. But because of the the electronics involved I think we've moved beyond battery replacement being a simple DIY exercise even for ICE vehicles.

I used to rail against BMW because you have to reset the ecu to recognize a new battery. They were one of the first, but their BMS did create 5-7 year battery lives as a result. Now that system looks so quaint!
 

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Normally I would agree with you. But because of the the electronics involved I think we've moved beyond battery replacement being a simple DIY exercise even for ICE vehicles.

I used to rail against BMW because you have to reset the ecu to recognize a new battery. They were one of the first, but their BMS did create 5-7 year battery lives as a result. Now that system looks so quaint!
Yeah, you bring up a good point. The left/ right sync could get one into trouble if they did it wrong. Maybe they just need to use better 12v batteries.
 

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Yeah, you bring up a good point. The left/ right sync could get one into trouble if they did it wrong. Maybe they just need to use better 12v batteries.
Yes, and that bring up a point I forgot to mention.

I didn't get any clarity or insight into why the 12V issue suddenly appeared. Pretty tight lipped about that. Except to say, the tech did point out that these are very small batteries and they don't have the capacity to tolerate any loss of charging source for very long. They will discharge QUICK if there is any interruption to their charging. Like minutes...not hours. I'm guessing this statement somehow points to the source of the 12V issue...but again just guessing.
 
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Thanks for the writeup though I have a question regarding the error codes.

Does a hard reset not clear these out?
According to these guys (https://www.ohmmu.com/product-page/12v-lithium-battery-2-pack-for-rivian-r1t-r1s) you can swap the batteries and perform a reset and it takes care of any error codes.
So why is your situation different or are they incorrect?
They might be correct, I don't know the answer though. I'd try but I don't want to be wrong and have to haul it to the service center!
 

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I'm also curious as to how you actually did the jumpering with the cables at the back of the truck, was it just using a battery you had lying around? did you use a manual charger?
 
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I'm also curious as to how you actually did the jumpering with the cables at the back of the truck, was it just using a battery you had lying around? did you use a manual charger?
I used my Schumacher charger. But any charger will work as long as you don't go over 30amps max (per the Owner's Manual).
 

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So the service tech needed a laptop or some other device to reset the codes?
 
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So the service tech needed a laptop or some other device to reset the codes?
Yep, laptop. He had to physically plug into the "obd2" port under dash to clear the codes. Just like an ICE vehicle. Pretty sure that port has standard CAN pinouts (which are 6 & 14)...though not 100 positive.
 

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Be prepared though, you'll break a fair amount of clips doing so.
Are they conventional automotive trim panel clips or something special that would need to be sourced from Rivian? I am really interested to see more of what is under the skin but am reluctant to break a bunch of clips and connectors that are not designed for graceful removal.
 

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