Cybertruck has a usable range of 266 miles? ?

[NY_Rob]

Tesla is usually no news is bad news in their past. And bad news usually means something along the lines of changing expectations for a customer. Mind you, expectations that they originally set.

Agreed, but not going with 800v (for real, not 400v/400v splitting) would be a pretty big fail for their new halo vehicle.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see on that point.

What I've read about the Nov 30th delivery event is that it's only a handful of CT's being delivered to Tesla employees, insiders, investors, etc.. not regular retail customers. Now if true, that is truly disappointing news...

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[Supratachophobia]

Agreed, but not going with 800v (for real, not 400v/400v splitting) would be a pretty big fail for their new halo vehicle.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see on that point.

What I've read about the Nov 30th delivery event is that it's only a handful of CT's being delivered to Tesla employees, insiders, investors, etc.. not regular retail customers. Now if true, that is truly disappointing news...

I'm going to say the unpopular thing here. But it's not their halo vehicle. It's a vehicle that they have to make to satisfy the hubris of their CEO. It will be produced and sold in such small quantities so as to satisfy the claim that it was done. But it will be a novelty at present, and barely a footnote in automotive history unless it's looked at from the lense of what not to do with a big mouth, a fanbois yes-man base, and extreme narcissism.

 

[NY_Rob]

I'm going to say the unpopular thing here. But it's not their halo vehicle. It's a vehicle that they have to make to satisfy the hubris of their CEO. It will be produced and sold in such small quantities so as to satisfy the claim that it was done. But it will be a novelty at present, and barely a footnote in automotive history unless it's looked at from the lens of what not to do with a big mouth, a fanbois yes-man base, and extreme narcissism.

Really can't disagree with anything you posted.. I was onboard back when it was first introduced with it's low price, great towing specs, great range, etc.. but now we see many of the original details have changed and so has my position on it. I'm still a res holder, but the chances of my buying in are very low.

 

[SANZC02]

Since the internet seems to keep wanting to show me this, here's a different crop of it that shows the charge rate and how much has been added:

I'm a little confused how 77kW is 75 mi/hr, but maybe it's intentionally wrong so people can't extrapolate the efficiency yet.

My Model S reads like that as well, the 75 kW is how much added for this charge cycle the 75 miles an hour is the current charge rate.

 

[Dark-Fx]

My Model S reads like that as well, the 75 kW is how much added for this charge cycle the 75 miles an hour is the current charge rate.

The +50kWh isn't how much is added?

 

[SANZC02]

The +50kWh isn't how much is added?

To me that looks like Charge rate so the truck gets 1.5 miles per kW.

The 75 is kW, the 50 is kWh.

So looks like it is charging at 75mph/50kWh

Edit: Just my take, I could be wrong.

 

[WSea]

To me that looks like Charge rate so the truck gets 1.5 miles per kW.

The 75 is kW, the 50 is kWh.

So looks like it is charging at 75mph/50kWh

Edit: Just my take, I could be wrong.

WOW! Even worse. This thing just can't be taken seriously. Going to be the supercharger version of EA Bolts

 

[DuoRivians]

My best guess is that the CT will have a 120-140kwh pack. Elon will come out on stage and say it can get 350 miles. In actual, it’ll be around 270 miles.

 

[Tango45]

I'm going to say the unpopular thing here. But it's not their halo vehicle. It's a vehicle that they have to make to satisfy the hubris of their CEO. It will be produced and sold in such small quantities so as to satisfy the claim that it was done. But it will be a novelty at present, and barely a footnote in automotive history unless it's looked at from the lense of what not to do with a big mouth, a fanbois yes-man base, and extreme narcissism.

I'll say the really unpopular thing here: I hope this doesn't hurt Tesla too bad (can't bring myself to say I hope it is a smashing success). Tesla is, like it or not, still a, if not the, leader in the EV space in North America and (almost) everyone is now banking on their charging infrastructure. I can (and have proven I can) hate with the best of them, but I think if Tesla takes a substantial enough hit to really impact their business, it hurts us all. In the end, when I talk to people about EVs, I find I am forced to say, if you want it easy and their models satisfy your needs, just get a Tesla. So, while I still cringe at the sight of this dormant dumpster fire, I wish them... not the best, but a continuation of some degree of the status quo.

 

[COdogman]

I'll say the really unpopular thing here: I hope this doesn't hurt Tesla too bad (can't bring myself to say I hope it is a smashing success). Tesla is, like it or not, still a, if not the, leader in the EV space in North America and (almost) everyone is now banking on their charging infrastructure. I can (and have proven I can) hate with the best of them, but I think if Tesla takes a substantial enough hit to really impact their business, it hurts us all. In the end, when I talk to people about EVs, I find I am forced to say, if you want it easy and their models satisfy your needs, just get a Tesla. So, while I still cringe at the sight of this dormant dumpster fire, I wish them... not the best, but a continuation of some degree of the status quo.

If the CT fails, Tesla will have to eat their first serving of humble pie, but they will survive. So hate as you see fit

 

[Dark-Fx]

I'll say the really unpopular thing here: I hope this doesn't hurt Tesla too bad (can't bring myself to say I hope it is a smashing success). Tesla is, like it or not, still a, if not the, leader in the EV space in North America and (almost) everyone is now banking on their charging infrastructure. I can (and have proven I can) hate with the best of them, but I think if Tesla takes a substantial enough hit to really impact their business, it hurts us all. In the end, when I talk to people about EVs, I find I am forced to say, if you want it easy and their models satisfy your needs, just get a Tesla. So, while I still cringe at the sight of this dormant dumpster fire, I wish them... not the best, but a continuation of some degree of the status quo.

Tesla can always pivot to just being a charging provider. Much harder environment to get a foothold into for newcomers, since it relies on physical presence and very expensive equipment with a shitty ROI.

 

[Tango45]

If the CT fails, Tesla will have to eat their first serving of humble pie, but they will survive. So hate as you see fit

Tesla can always pivot to just being a charging provider. Much harder environment to get a foothold into for newcomers, since it relies on physical presence and very expensive equipment with a shitty ROI.

Thank y'all for helping through my moment of weakness! I will do better in the future.

 

[GhostAndSkater]

To me that looks like Charge rate so the truck gets 1.5 miles per kW.

The 75 is kW, the 50 is kWh.

So looks like it is charging at 75mph/50kWh

Edit: Just my take, I could be wrong.

Your math is wrong, and once we do it right it shows that those number are likely placeholders

All those reading in Tesla are instantaneous, so charging at 77 kW and 75 mi/h would mean that with 77 kWh, it would go 75 miles, which would mean 1.02 kWh/mi, which is obviously wrong unless it was towing something big, which doesn't seem to be the case

 

[GhostAndSkater]

You may want to re-read my response. I did not say it was charging at 75kWh.

I said to me it looks like the 75 kW is how much it has added in the current session, note this is a unit of measure not a rate.

I then said it looks like from that current screenshot it is currently charging at 75 mph and 50 kWh which are both rates not units.

If it is doing 50 kWh and that rate equates to 75 mph then it would be:

50 kWh * 1.5 = 75 mph

As for if those are real numbers or placeholders, no clue.

No, 77 kW is the instantaneous charging power, 75 mi/hr is the instantaneous range added rate, which is Tesla is charging power divided by EPA rating

The 50 kWh is how much energy has been added in the charging session so far, but since we don't know what SoC it started, we can't do anything with it

kWh is not rate, it's quantity, how much energy it was added, 77 kW is a rate, how much power it is currently

 

[NY_Rob]

My best guess is that the CT will have a 120-140kwh pack. Elon will come out on stage and say it can get 350 miles. In actual, it’ll be around 270 miles.

Yeah.. if you put an egg between your foot and the acc pedal you'll get 350miles.

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