Tesla engineer urges Rivian to move charge port location on R2, R3, R3X for Supercharger access

[krockett]

What’s wrong with backing into a spot? You’re going to have to back out of it.

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[antelux]

IMHO this should be the same as gas stations with long cables, with cars having the gas lid on either side of the car depending on the make.

 

[aAlpine]

What am I missing on the first point? The charge port is now located at the furthest corner from the current location. My charger is right next to the front/driver’s side. Now I need to have a cable long enough to reach the far back/passenger side. Isn’t it in the worst location (note: doesn’t matter to me, I am not getting one) but it seems to be the worst of all worlds.

If you accept that the port has to be in the rear (personally I'd prefer front), in the following garage charger placement, option 2 is the shortest cord and will definitely work with all home EVSEs:

 

[DuoRivians]

Typical Tesla. They think too highly of themselves

 

[DuoRivian]

Not surprised a Tesla employee thinks the entire world revolves around Tesla.

IMO charging stations should all have longer cables and all EVs should have 2 ports to make it easier for everyone everywhere.

Porsche has this on the Taycan.

 

[pricedm]

What’s wrong with backing into a spot? You’re going to have to back out of it.

Nothing. But with a trailer, this means disconnecting prior to charging. Same with 2 bikes on a hitch-mounted bike rack

coming from a 99% of the time back-in parker

 

[COdogman]

Not just a Tesla employee, the freaking lead CyberTruck engineer - because he is SO focused on usability. <eyeroll>

Great point. Zero sense of irony or self awareness

 

[RandomMcRandomFace]

Basically if you change from backing-in to front-in (or vice versa) the R2 charging port will be at the same exact spot. I think that is what RJ means.

Super quick excel drawing:

People routinely back into their garage/driveway? That's not possible for me (Practically). I am just struggling to see any argument this is "better for" or "saving" current owners. It is in the worst spot for home charging if you set it up for a current R1.

Edit: folks I understand if you back in its in the same spot. People have long driveways or live on busy roads or [insert any number of other reasons you can't back into your driveway].

 

[pricedm]

Typical Tesla. They think too highly of themselves

how is this typical RAN going to work for passenger-side/ rear? Rivian needs to reconsider R2-R3 chargepoint location

 

[Stickboy46]

"Man who made a design mistake says others should just accommodate his mistake"

 

[Marchin_MTB]

I have mixed feelings on this. Partly because any rear port location, no matter which side, is not great when towing or when you have a hitch accessory.

Say that you have that rear box accessory Rivian showed in the release. I don’t see how you position to a Tesla or RAN charger this way. And if the cable does just barely reach, positioning the vehicle to within 5mm of a bollard is no fun.

or consider something like the pull through RAN in salida. I don’t think you can pull up to it from the passenger side without the trailer being in the street, or at least in the sidewalk.

that said, I do like backing in (when not towing).

In the ideal world, all DCFC cabinets would be pull through with enough space front and back for a car and trailer so it wouldn’t matter where your port was, but we do not live in this utopia.

 

[Augsburg]

If you accept that the port has to be in the rear (personally I'd prefer front), in the following garage charger placement, option 2 is the shortest cord and will definitely work with all home EVSEs:

It gets complicated. Your diagram appears to assume a one car garage. Many with home garages built since 1960, are at least two car garages. If you have a 2-garage door, 2-car garage, you'd like to put one charger in the space between the two garage doors, to service both parking bays. That's what we did. The passenger side rear works for us if we drive straight in. We prefer to back in due to our garage access, but we can drive straight in on charging days, if we have to.

 

[jupiterking]

Tesla could actually put longer cords in like they've said they are going to.

Exactly. This isn’t a Rivian problem.

 

[Marchin_MTB]

* The Tesla cable reaches fine as-is because the port is close enough to the back corner

I’d like to see them elaborate on this. Do they mean that the cable reaches when you park in the “correct” Tesla spot or one spot over? I have been to v3 superchargers and the R1 port location (which is equivalent to the R2 when backed in) definitely does not reach without effectively blocking another charger.

 

[Dark-Fx]

What’s wrong with backing into a spot? You’re going to have to back out of it.

I drive over the curbs

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