Other EVs in 2023

[Max]

What other BEVs (or PHEV or Hybrid or ICE) would you consider if your Explore or Max pack does not pan out in 2023? Ioniq 5, ID Buzz, …..?

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[Dark-Fx]

Wife wants to get the Buzz, but I have a feeling that VW is just going to miss the mark with it.

 

[Turnipsaregreat]

I've been looking at the Buzz for years. It's between that and an R1S for us, just waitingon more information to make a decision. (although I do have 2 years to make that decision.)

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

I'm planning on getting a Buzz and an R1S. Buzz will be for the wife as her daily driver/family car and the R1S will be mine.

Nothing I've seen on the Buzz so far is off the mark. As long as it has decent range should be a big winner.

 

[lostpacket]

Some that look interesting to me:

Fisker Ocean
Polestar 3
Volvo XC90

 

[McMoo]

Probably nothing for me. VW ID8, Kia EV9, Ioniq 7 and Ford Explorer EV are probably 2024 at the earliest. For me, it’s either the R1S or keeping my model 3.

For my wife, she doesn’t need the performance of the R1S so if there’s a 3 row cheaper option by 2025 we’ll go with that.

 

[Friscorays]

Bummer about March 1, 2022.

 

[Temerarius]

In 2023?

Nada really for me (looking for a pickup to replace the pickup we have AND replace the Tesla X as the family cruiser).

Ford wise: The F150 Lightening, I'm guessing will be a 2023 item for most folks, but I'm after the longer range (dos boot will take a chunk of the range when towing up and down the I-5, or across the I-90/HWY-2 corridors). Plus, I really like the size of the R1T for day to day driving (an issue I'd have with the F150, since I have it now with my Ram 1500).

An EV Ranger would be tasty though, but, no mention of such a beast. A hybrid Maverick might be in the future for my son (but given that dealers are marking them up by almost 2x right now... meh).

GM wise: 2023 (most like 2024 in reality) for the EV versions of the Silverado or Sierra. And to be honest, I'm not particularly enamored with their EV efforts so far. They either seem to burst into flames, or have the design esthetic of a 6 year old boy given a box of crayons and told to draw a "truck", plus an efficiency rating that is heinous (43 eMPG for the Hummer... hooooly hell, it will pass anything but a charging station).

Stelantis/FCA/RAM: LOL... ya.. they have no idea what they are doing yet.

Toyota: I don't think the EV truck they did a dog and pony show of in their reveal will be ready before 2024. I like the size, but know nothing else of it.

Honda: Uhhh, as far as I know they only have one EV, and my eBike has almost as much range.

Mazda: See my Honda take.

Hyundia: An EV version of the Santa Cruz? Maybe for the boy, but I don't think it would meet my needs, and again, no mention of such a creature lurking in the shadows.

That all said, my wife has a dirt old jelly bean of a car that I literally have shoes that are bigger than it.

I ordered her a Volvo XC40 Recharge (she likes the smaller cars), but it's a bit of a race between it, and the Audi Q4 for me. I actually much prefer the Audi Q4 (even if it has no frunk... lazy engineering) to the Volvo both due to the slightly larger size, but also the cost (it costs a fair bit less versus the Volvo).

The EV6 looks damn nice, but it's too big for what the wife wants.

VW has done some horrible user design in their cars, so they are pretty much out of the running (that $#@!ing radio/HVAC control is an exercise in madness, and who the hell thought the window control layout they put in place was a good idea... OMG). Maybe if they got their stuff together they would be back in the running for the wife's car.

 

[cmiller]

I will check out the Silverado when reservations start on the 5th, but other than that there isn't anything I am impressed with. If they electrify my bronco I am all in, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

 

[lostpacket]

This thing seems like a good option as you can use the headlights as lasers and vaporize traffic in front of you.

from: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/yet-another-new-entrant-thundertruck.3146/

 

[DuckTruck]

I've been looking at the Buzz for years. It's between that and an R1S for us, just waitingon more information to make a decision. (although I do have 2 years to make that decision.)

Probably longer, if you choose the VW..... ?

 

[DuckTruck]

I trust that Rivian's crack team of lawyers has already been activated. View attachment 13267 View attachment 13268 View attachment 13269

Had they copyrighted "Soon" earlier, they'd already have a revenue stream in place. ?

 

[Rob Stark]

The fully loaded launch edition triple motor Hummer EV with 37" all terrain tires gets a more Prius like ~54 MPGe.

Mid 2022 Mitsubishi will launch the tweener compact-midsize CUV barely 3rd row Outlander PHEV. Should have ~46 EPA all electric miles range (20 kWh pack) and ~325 combined horsepower for a decent 0-60. Not Tesla-Rivian 0-60 but decent for a car with an ICE in it.

 

[E.S.]

This thing seems like a good option as you can use the headlights as lasers and vaporize traffic in front of you.

Laser headbeams?

I can dig it

 

[kizamybute']

Anything with a bed and no engine that's available more than 6 months prior to what Rivian tells me is the time

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