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Not used to reversing a larger vehicle, I wonder how many new R2 owners will be posting complaints about port location (and committing fender benders) trying to charge at EA etc.. Some EA sites are very tight. I know a few (at banks) that would have you headed the wrong way, in a one-way lot, if reversed in.
 
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I wonder why they chose to have the charge door shape angle towards the back of the vehicle, instead of following the line of the wheel well? The door on this one is a bit larger than the prototype and swings sideways instead of up-down. Personally, I prefer the up-down since it's less likely to get in the way of the charge cable. Obviously, these aren't final production versions, so some of these things might change.

I also prefer the charger in the front of the vehicle, but as discussed by RJ, it's in the back because if it's in the back there's less high voltage copper wire in a rear wheel drive version and therefore brings the cost down.


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I wonder why they chose to have the charge door shape angle towards the back of the vehicle, instead of following the line of the wheel well? The door on this one is a bit larger than the prototype and swings sideways instead of up-down. Personally, I prefer the up-down since it's less likely to get in the way of the charge cable. Obviously, these aren't final production versions, so some of these things might change.

I also prefer the charger in the front of the vehicle, but as discussed by RJ, it's in the back because if it's in the back there's less high voltage copper wire in a rear wheel drive version and therefore brings the cost down.


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The new door shape leaves a lot more room for CCS-to-NACS & J1772-to-NACS adapters. Those would have run into the panel itself with the old design.
 

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The new door shape leaves a lot more room for CCS-to-NACS & J1772-to-NACS adapters. Those would have run into the panel itself with the old design.
Oh right, the adapter… good point!
 

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Still curious what they do at RAN locations once R2 starts shipping. Lots of RAN locations are built so that a vehicle with the port there wouldn't be able to charge. And definitely not useful in many of the "towing stall"s that are designed expecting the vehicle to have the charge port at the front. (Although at least being on the driver's side like the R1 means that some towing stalls you'll just be "sticking out further than intended" rather than completely unusable. But at others where it's "nose-in to a wall" it will be impossible to charge at those stalls with a trailer still attached.)

Lincoln City, Oregon RAN would need to move the dispenser to the "midpoint" of the vehicle, and have a significantly longer charge cord in its trailer stall, so it could reach both R1 and R2 locations. At least that location, that's possible, since there's equipment going back quite a ways on the driver's side in that stall. Bridgeport, California RAN has the dispensers all against the back wall of a gas station - it means three towing-vehicles can all charge at the same time, but an R2 can't possibly pull forward enough - they'd need a ridiculously long cord. (Or do a lot of work mounting the dispensers farther away from the building - where is currently just gravel lot.)
 

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Still curious what they do at RAN locations once R2 starts shipping. Lots of RAN locations are built so that a vehicle with the port there wouldn't be able to charge. And definitely not useful in many of the "towing stall"s that are designed expecting the vehicle to have the charge port at the front. (Although at least being on the driver's side like the R1 means that some towing stalls you'll just be "sticking out further than intended" rather than completely unusable. But at others where it's "nose-in to a wall" it will be impossible to charge at those stalls with a trailer still attached.)

Lincoln City, Oregon RAN would need to move the dispenser to the "midpoint" of the vehicle, and have a significantly longer charge cord in its trailer stall, so it could reach both R1 and R2 locations. At least that location, that's possible, since there's equipment going back quite a ways on the driver's side in that stall. Bridgeport, California RAN has the dispensers all against the back wall of a gas station - it means three towing-vehicles can all charge at the same time, but an R2 can't possibly pull forward enough - they'd need a ridiculously long cord. (Or do a lot of work mounting the dispensers farther away from the building - where is currently just gravel lot.)
I think the cables at the older RANs are just long enough to reach, and the new ones do for sure (you can see one stretching around to charge a Polestar and one of Rivian's promo shots for the upgraded charging posts).

All the existing RAN stations with the older, shorter posts are being swapped to the new ones.
 

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Ah well. I had hoped the charging port would have moved to the passenger front. But it is what it is.

I had really hoped the industry would standardize charge-port locations. Unlike gas pumps, there are reasons of physics and practicality to keep charging cables short and in consistent locations for everyone.
 

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Leasing Model 3 until R3X comes out, but now I have an R2 reservation as well.
Not used to reversing a larger vehicle, I wonder how many new R2 owners will be posting complaints about port location (and committing fender benders) trying to charge at EA etc.. Some EA sites are very tight. I know a few (at banks) that would have you headed the wrong way, in a one-way lot, if reversed in.
With the rear camera and sensors it’s not that bad. Most Americans prefer pulling into a space though and if you have a trailer…
 

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Ah well. I had hoped the charging port would have moved to the passenger front. But it is what it is.

I had really hoped the industry would standardize charge-port locations. Unlike gas pumps, there are reasons of physics and practicality to keep charging cables short and in consistent locations for everyone.
To me It is more the location of the EV charging at the head of the parking spot vs the far more flexible pull through gasoline station. Yes an EV standard would help. We might be adopting the Tesla left rear as the standard. Time will tell. The original LEAF front and center was very convenient.

Right front would mirror the Tesla and probably be best for curbside charging such as along a street.
 

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To me It is more the location of the EV charging at the head of the parking spot vs the far more flexible pull through gasoline station. Yes an EV standard would help. We might be adopting the Tesla left rear as the standard. Time will tell. The original LEAF front and center was very convenient.

Right front would mirror the Tesla and probably be best for curbside charging such as along a street.
Agreed. Passenger front has the following benefits:

1. Front works way better when a trailer is involved.
2. Some parking spots can work as back-in, some cannot. For example, you don't back into a diagonal parking spot. All parking spots can be pulled into face first. Using the rear of the car unnecessarily limits which parking spots can be used for charging.
3. Curbside charging should be a thing someday. This only works along the passenger side.
4. Passenger front still aligns with the V3 superchargers.

I'm not sure what benefits there are to driver-side rear. Other than just copying Tesla for the sake of copying Tesla.
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