Texas Potentially selling my R1S upon arrival

[Batman]

We got an email in December that tells you your delivery window.

I never got one. Probably cause I ordered it in Nov 2021. I'm not expecting to see mine until late 2023

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[Nine_One_Six_R1S]

I never got one. Probably cause I ordered it in Nov 2021. I'm not expecting to see mine until late 2023

You should have received one email if you ordered Nov 2021. Maybe you missed it or it got caught up by your spam filter

 

[LeoH]

Another situation they are trying to avoid with the "resale" clause, is when a car is driven/used daily under Dealer plates. Car dealerships are issues those special plates, that we have all seen, think smaller dealers for a bit; I know a dealer wo uses those plates for his family, and when a better car comes in, they sell the one they are using and slap plates on the newer one.

Legal? no. Happens? yes.

 

[Monkey]

Lol . . . you are getting some pretty sketchy tax advice here.

Not sure the IRS would audit you in the first place, but you cannot claim the tax credit if you are purchasing the vehicle for resale. Doesn't really matter if you title, license, or hold on to the care for a "minimum" amount of time.

Sketchy how? The most sound tax advice I can give, and I'm sure you'll agree with this, is to not make decisions solely off what some Monkey in an Internet forum says. Other than that I will offer this; I buy a dozen or so vehicles every year for both business and personal use and have filed for many of the BEV/HEV tax incentives. Occasionally a few of these vehicles do get resold or traded in short order, mostly out of necessity or shift in business needs. And other than the weird pandemic market this past year, are all sold at a loss because they are a "used" vehicle and we don't buy them for the purpose of resale. The only requirement is that the vehicle is placed into service. Legally speaking, that constitutes title and license/registration. According to both the IRS and the State of Colorado, you put plates on it, it's in service, you have met your requirements to claim the incentive. There are no stipulations on time in service or time of ownership.

I don't really want to clog up this thread with a minor debate. but can you tell me what law you think this would violate? As an attorney, I'm drawing a blank here. This might be bad business, but I'm not sure why you are calling this "unlawful."

My "unlawful" statement was specifically addressed at the "blacklist" comment. Consumer blacklists are considered discriminatory in some places. While I agree that under most circumstances a business can refuse service to anyone for any reason, I'm not going to crawl down that rabbit hole on these forums and start discussing McDonald's coffee and gay wedding cakes.

This is why Tesla had to walk back their policy of not letting people order a new car after they refused delivery of one or returned one in the 7 day trial period due to quality issues.

In addition to this, vehicle titles exist for many reasons and this is one of them. When you purchase a vehicle and are granted title to it, that title is to be issued unencumbered (in most states). You own the title and the property it represents and have the right to do with it as you will. Those with a vested interest in the titled property, such as your lender, can hold a lien that will be specifically registered with the title. Some states, like Colorado, allow the lien holder or a lessor to maintain physical possession of the title to help ensure proper payment or release of that lien in the event of a sale or transfer of ownership/title. Beyond that, anyone with claim as to how the titled property can be used or transferred will need to be listed as an owner. For a car company or dealership to to try and circumvent that title of ownership and dictate what one does with their property, would be an outright obstruction of free enterprise.. The mere suggestion or threat of potential blacklists or inability of someone to re-buy, after simply selling property that is rightfully theirs, creates undue pressure or an obstructive influence.

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