One correction, Tesla definitely leads in supervised autonomy. The problem with that is, 90% of what people want is just adaptive cruise with lane keeping and following roads on highways and there is no way to do that in a new Tesla unless you pay a subscription whereas many other cars include...
You're wrong, here is the SAE diagram directly from their website at sae.org:
No implementation of Tesla FSD can drive itself without ever asking the "supervisor" to take over driving in certain cases. Therefore it's L2.
V13 was also end to end neural net, but with much lower resolution camera data and a lot less processing power. It was pre-v12 that was deterministic hard coded
That is not happening anytime soon. It took Tesla itself 10 years. If you're not satisfied with Lane Keep and Adaptive Cruise (and hopefully it stays on when you want to do an overtake), you shouldn't really consider the R2.
I'd have long gotten an EV9 if I wanted a 3-row vehicle. It's pretty much perfect for the price and the substantial discounts/lease deals you get. More room, faster charging, and more features than the Tesla (or the R2 for that matter). Cadillac Vistiq is also a very nice competitor in that...
I am confused by this sentence. We are in agreement that adaptive cruise with lane keeping is great for long distances. I don't think it makes too much difference between hands free and on, since you need a place to rest your hands anyway.
I still maintain that the supervised hands free city...
Ok but this doesn't refute anything I said. I agree lane keeping with adaptive cruise makes long drives easier but you're still supervising and therefore driving. Most cars have this system and it's precisely why Tesla removed theirs (free basic autopilot) to force fsd subscriptions because...
I had interpreted data labeling as "HD maps" so you're correct that it uses regular maps, but that Data labeling task is also very labor intensive like how Waymo is doing with their scans. But you're wrong in saying Waymo is worse than Tesla, they have way more unsupervised driving experience...