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I don't argue with straw man arguments. I love both Tesla and Rivian. This whole thread started with me extolling Tesla over Ford. Not against the Rivian. I have enough love for two, because I'm not a fanboi. Have fun.

The SpaceX version? With all those cold air thrusters? That's the point of having them I suppose. Would I buy it? No. Will it exist, of course.

Of course I want everyone to drive an EV, yes boomers need their Silverado's and F-150's. Glad you are not stereotypical enough to like the Rivian. ?

The post by an employee of a R1T business owner, on this forum, that was later deleted for fear of being fired. The OP did not want their firing on his conscience. Look, I want an R1S for sure. That why I candidly worry about new issues. Will Rivian succeed? Hell yes. Do I also think Tesla will...

Millennials and older Gen Z are not kids. But thanks for infantilizing two whole generations.

Uh, it's not out yet. But thanks for your example of a straw man argument.. I'll add to the FUD.

Tesla has met every one of their vehicle specs and then some. I'm not worried about Tesla. I am worried about Rivians phantom drain and braking problems. Well the thing with generalizing is it goes both ways, we all have our data sets. You see, I too am a Millennial and yes only a few of my...

Well to each their own. Some people just want the perfect tool and aren't bound to such shallowness. Besides the CT is awesome looking. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I also know younger people are more forgiving with the looks and actually think it's fairly sexy. Which means it...

Although, for approx same price the Tri Motor CT does have an edge on the R1T. Even the Dual Motor is nearly the same towing capacity as the R1T.

Um, uncool? There's no used Tesla whatsoever. They all sell above KBB and faster than any other vehicle. This article is nonsense.

? You called me out for being non wasteful ?‍♂️

Yea, that's how logic works Mr Waste.

Like I said, so did my wife's Tesla, I don't even care if it came with my Model 3 because the leader doesn't need to equip needless items to increase cost.

Why focus on Tesla? No other EV I've owned even gave you the option to buy an adapter.

Or just buy the adapters you think you will use ?‍♂️ The Supercharger network is so expansive I have only charged Level 2 at home and opportunity charging. And never with Level 1. I've been driving EVs for over 10 years. I've had my fair share of hunting down a plug.

I suppose that makes sense, why produce something not everyone will use. Prevents waste.

Strange, I've never used my Tesla mobile charger, or my wife's Tesla mobile charger, but they are both likely 240 V with the adapter for 14/30 if not 14/50. Since we're both long time EV people we've had 3 different EVSEs at home. And public Level 2 and Level 3 are sufficient where we live and...

In Walnut Creek California in front of Tiffany's Co.

In Walnut Creek California in front of Tiffany's Co.