From my understanding, R1S has consistently been slightly less efficient than R1T, even though they initially thought the opposite would be the case. Using R1S for both is probably safe.
Thanks! Couple parts of the article definitely went over my head, but the gist was āat very high and very low temps heat pumps are not as efficient as the AC/PTC comboā. So, I guess the answer to whether the switch to a heat pump in Gen 2 will benefit you is dependent on youāre local climate...
Totally serious, honest question (not being snarky): What are you basing this statement on? An AC is a unidirectional heat pump. Why would a bidirectional heat pump be any less efficient at cooling? Wouldnāt it totally depend on the specific hardware you are comparing?
We can say with...
@Rnut Do what you are comfortable with. If it were me, Iād use the 12V connectors behind the hitch cover (link below), jump the truck and hopefully gain access that way. Depending on the response from the vehicle, Iād retry the update with a trickle charger on the 12v...
@COMtnEV This is really great data, thanks for doing that! I wonder why Rivian is reluctant to have the truck condition the battery to optimize L2 charging in cold weather. I really think that is all itād take but itās probably not that simple.
Interesting, so do you think itās just the switch to the heat pump thatās causing the L2 throttling issue at lower temps and high SoC or is there another variable in this equation?
Gave 2024.51.31 another try this afternoon and didnāt see much, if any difference. In the screenshot you can see the classic Gen 2 cold-pack, high-SoC, stair-step L2 throttle. The amperage offset from 2024.51.30 does make a slight difference by bringing up the throttled rate by about 1 Kw.
My...
Speaking of A2Z, anyone else getting the extension cable when it comes out? I know, I know, āextension cables badā but in a pinch I want the flexibility of plugging in anywhere when at a busy supercharger, even if it derates (slows) the charge speed.
I didnāt take a screen shot this time, but it definitely started throttling at <80%. Iāll do a better job tracking next time and charge above 90% to see where the stair steps are now.
Iāll bet it is pulling some power for heating the pack, there is a 0.5 to 1.5 Kw delta between the consumption reported by the app and the charge rate reported by ABRP.
I greatly dislike that my 2025, $90K R1S L2 charges worse than my 2013, $4K Nissan Leaf, but it seems like weāre making some...
L2 charged from 60% to 85% after the 51.31 hot fix OTA. Previously, starting from 20-30F, the pack would warm and hold a steady 46F during L2 charging. Only difference I noticed after the update was the pack temp got up to 48F, which is SOO CLOSE to the Gen 2 50F L2 throttling threshold its...
Donāt know if any of you watch or listen to the Batteries Included livestream on Friday morning. I brought this issue up and am following up as best I can. I think some Rivian folks follow that.
@COMtnEV Sure seems like the Rivian app is reporting total consumption rather than just energy to the battery (Charge rate). Itās strange, the data is coming straight from the vehicle (through the cloud), I donāt know why ABRP and the Rivian display/app are so different on several metrics...
I elevated the low temp L2 charger throttling issue on the āBatteries Includedā YouTube livestream today and did get some attention, so hereās hoping someone at Rivian is listening.
Really sorry to hear that @COMtnEV. Iām fortunate my use case makes the throttled charging less of an issue for me, but angry Rivian isnāt addressing or acknowledging it. Was hopeful the latest OTA would help, but it didnāt (even after a hard reset - @Mellowyellow and @OYLman).
Iām considering...
Disappointingā¦and interestingā¦but mainly disappointing.
L2 charged from 73-88% SoC this morning. Outside air temp was mid to upper 20s. Consistent with the report by @Chi_Guy last night, I did not see a change in L2 charging behavior as a result of the 2024.51.30 OTA update. The throttled...