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Dilute it? I just meant use it as a method to spread out further, Volvo is a luxury brand btw. Will they combine them? probably not, but can they use personnel for training/supplementing, probably.

Yeah but by that logic Rivian has zero locations, so just depends on Polestar's rollout, they at least have some other servicing growth through Volvo potentially. Probably good to see peoples experience so far, as me being like 5 states away from servicing definitely hasn't stopped them from...

Haven't they been taking portable chargers on some of their testing too?

About to 2 mins in she says it, i think she just never plugged it in.

Maybe they're doing the long way down under

lol, I just don’t agree with their definition of gaming. Sorry, I just disagree with you. The simple fact that people post about their range 1000s of times a day in Tesla communities. Just because the EPA system is bad doesn’t mean Tesla isn’t gaming it, too.

Sorry - maybe it comes off bad but they are. They are doing everything within the rules to make their mileage appear higher instead of more accurate. Thus I choose gaming. As someone with 2 Tesla's I'm ok saying it. Especially given it's one of many ways to report your EPA figures. I think...

It's pretty well known that Taycan was tested with 2 cycle EPA test meaning it received around 30% 'correction' in reduction of miles, which is why it's low. Tesla tends to game the system with 5 cycle and does everything to make it a high number.

Also 5 cycle tests don’t receive a correction factor which is like 20-30% reduction, which is why Porsche Taycan exceeds its EPA

https://about.polestar.com/news/polestar-3-will-be-manufactured-in-the-us/?utm_medium=so&utm_source=in&utm_campaign=Polestar_Polestar-Brand_Global-Organic-Social_local_N%2FA&utm_content=pcid_5742_67991_175527_480460_n_hq_orgsome21q1_so_in

Pay attention when EPA numbers come out, if they do 2 cycle epa test it has a correction factor that will likely make it accrurate or conservative even, if its 5, may be overrated like Tesla.

So etron is 496 wh/mi at 75 mph so I imagine the real hwy range(at 70/80) of Rivian to be 260 which isn't bad, unless there's a buffer then maybe 240 or so(assuming 10kwh buffer). Which isn't terrible considering maybe when hauling flat it won't be so detrimental to range since the Rivian is...

I just think it's a good standard for a non Tesla. Also not sure you know how much charge you may use 'adventuring' in an EV, but you will possibly want to charge to 100% in those cases. Obviously a lot of this relies on information we simply don't know yet. It's okay for me to be interested and...

Yeah quite familiar with charging practices. But for Rivian I'm wondering if 140 in 20 mins is 400 pack or 300. Also we don't know how accurate 300 is, at like 70mph. Tesla is also bad at that. They get far under EPA at 70mph where Taycan gets far over. Which is another reason I gave Taycan as a...

Yeah again, not sure why you're arguing that. I simply said that I'd rather have 300kw charging and good battery life because it's possible, look at Taycan. It's new but got the buffer for the slight degradation and Porsche feels pretty confident or they wouldn't put it out. (additionally, the...

And yes, I wasn't saying 300kwh was bad for Rivian, I was saying it's necessary. If you somehow went to 0-100 at 300kwh(Which you won't ) still 30 mins to full, which is good I admit, but that isn't happening. 200 is 45, which, still isn't happening. When my Model x would road trip, even at...

Why do you use full capacity for Rivian and not for Taycan? Taycan has a 93.7 kwh battery but electronic buffer(limiting use) to 83, you calculate c rating on full capacity, not some arbitrary safety.

Well that 100% depends if it has a buffer like Taycan or not, and the charging curve. If R1T is 300 miles at using 100% of battery then you're wrong, if its 90% of battery, it's pretty close but again would depend on the curve(at 900v)

Got bored but safe to say it's about 600 (436 marked)

Both IMO, we need to get to a point where charging well is not going to murder your battery, re:taycan.