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I am not arguing against that, only that people need to start learning and being aware of what they are buying and push back against it. Without either severe consumer pushback or regulations from the government, nothing is going to change. With proven governmental guidance on proper network...

Zoidz, I never said I expected them to leave it open, but I was hoping that someone had found a hole to be able to do it to close security gaps like loading firewalls and other quality of life apps. But also, the point that many of you miss, is that what is done with a thing after a person buys...

Perfection is impossible, but that doesn't mean there aren't areas that we as public consumers should not be screaming out heads off about in the marketplace. The security and privacy aspect is the big, and unfortunately no matter who I choose as the manufacturer for my EV, I am going to...

Another thing I have not seen mentioned here as an argument for a larger battery and longer range is that some of us are going to be using our vehicle as the backup generator for our homes. I live in an area with poor power and are literally the 2nd the last house on a long snaking leg through...

Yes, demanding security and privacy for owners is a bridge too far for uneducated people who don't understand the loss and the risks. I am very sorry you are incapable of that level of insight and understanding. The rest of my reasoning was asking real owners if they had found any alternative...

I may be coming at this from another angle, but I see lots of people talking about range and comparing the 300 miles to vehicles that aren't trucks. I already have an Equinox EV and 300 miles range is perfect for that vehicle and the usage model. But a truck is not that. The Equinox EV is never...

Ah, so your take is blind acceptance and/or having the same deciding factors that you did for your purchase or no other viewpoint is valid. Got it. This forum is about discussing both pros and cons of any purchase. I have done my due diligence in seeing if anyone could provide additional...

The more info I get, I guess the Silverado is the only one that meets my range needs, but it misses on so many other things. I really want the Rivian and the form factor and the looks. But I just cant let the emotional side of it win. I have to steer towards one that meets the true needs first...

Exactly, you may be misreading and thinking I am arguing with you at least about the content of what you are saying. I am aware that batteries are lasting longer than anticipated. I am just saying that even after 10 years have elapsed, I demand more than 150 miles of range in even the very worst...

Thats funny but a real question. I'm older but Lyme disease has wrecked my bladder.... and my gut.... and my joints.. RIP

Silverado/Sierras are hitting nearly 500 miles at the price points of the Rivians. And the EPA mileage numbers they list are easily achievable even at 70MPH. I just wished the Rivians numbers were true. I still may end up settling for less range with the Rivians because the Silverados are just...

Yes, I know they last much longer than people originally anticipated, but my point was even though they last longer, the range still degrades over time and short of a too costly failure, I keep my vehicles until that too costly failure actually happens. Most of the time it is 10 years plus in my...

I wish efficiency was the extent of the care for me, but it is truly about having range in the worst of conditions where I care about it, and my vehicles see the worst conditions pretty often. 400+ miles is more than I could ever hope to use without food and bathroom breaks, but its that...

These practices and the comfort of people who don't understand are why I think there has to be some pushback. I would never advocate for these things to be taken away, but I do think requiring any connected device from vacuums to vehicles to use cloud services as the only path needs to be...

I think 300'ish miles is good for a car, but not for a pickup truck. Heck I just bought an equinox EV that is rated for 318 miles and it gets very close to that without even having to work at it. I'm also shopping between Rivian and the Silverado EV. But for trucks that are used as trucks for...

Nah, even though there is no law that truly regulates that hardware and software are two different things, let me provide a perfectly legal response to a similar situation. Take for instance the BMW heated seats that they are locking down behind similar software as with Rivian and others, there...

My goal is to push back against manufacturers. It has gotten to the point where this tracking crap and enshitification of devices has gotten bad. If no one ever pushes back then this will continue. More people need to be aware of the alternatives and here is my ultimate goal. Goal: Respect that...

Ah, the old straw man argument. What I do and want with one thing is irrelevant to this discussion, but I'll answer you. Yes, I used an android cell phone, but my phone is rooted to where I have the ultimate control over it, it is also partially de-googled, but is using island to spoof location...

Just writing back to everyone saying I should hard pass. Let me explain. I am not a luddite. I make my living with technology. But that also better equips me to understand the security ramifications of any decision I would make. As for sideloading and hacking, I would have to do that with every...

Hello everyone, new forum user here and hoping to get some discussions going to help ease my concerns with these cars. I have been HEAVILY researching in the weeds for many months now and am getting close to pulling the trigger, but these lingering issues still concern me if I end up going with...