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  1. "Park brake performance reduced on steep grades" -- new since 2023.50.01?

    I have never owned a Jeep w/o front & rear lockers, but point taken... they are not normally engaged while "parked".
  2. "Park brake performance reduced on steep grades" -- new since 2023.50.01?

    Well... lol... yeah.... if you are on ice, mud, slippery whatever, yeah... how many wheels are holding the vehicle in place matters. 4 wheels holding the vehicle in place is better than two... right? Now I think I must be missing something... "what does it matter..."? Four contact patches has...
  3. Preconditioning confusion

    Yes, I went from QM to DM. No, the quad has a terrible cooling design, and that will certainly not make it more efficient as a heater. That is why it has to get super hot to pull any usable heat off of it for the batteries. The heat in the motor is being created at the center, at the...
  4. Preconditioning - Paying Twice?

    Correct. The qm has a very inefficient cooling system, which makes it an equally inefficient heater.
  5. "Park brake performance reduced on steep grades" -- new since 2023.50.01?

    You are missing how a traditional four-wheel drive works. My Jeep applies brakes to the rear when I pull the parking brake. However, if four-wheel drive is engaged, that locks all four wheels in place.
  6. Preconditioning confusion

    Correct. Preheating the vehicle also triggers battery conditioning; if the vehicle deems it necessary. In my observations, it does not trigger battery heating if the battery is over 50° Fahrenheit. This may be where the confusion is coming in, as the vehicle is not going to waste energy...
  7. Preconditioning confusion

    This is incorrect information that keeps getting passed around. Even prior to the latest update, manually starting the climate control will also trigger battery conditioning if the vehicle deems it necessary. You can watch this happen yourself, by starting the climate control manually in the...
  8. OTA 2023.50.01 Software is Out! (w/ departure & preconditioning scheduling)!

    You do not have to schedule a departure to condition the battery. Manually turning on the climate control before you leave will also start the battery conditioning if needed.
  9. Portable winch option

    If you don't "understand the argument", you have not spent much time winching vehicles. The 2200lb winch you linked to is going to struggle to pull out a stuck atv. I do not believe it would be much use at all on a 7000lb vehicle. I know it seems that an an 8000lb winch should be able to pull a...
  10. Driving R1S on 22s in snow

    The problem with the quads is that they give up the inherent lateral stability of a differential. So if you start to slip, there is often sideways motion associated with it. This can be unnerving, and even dangerous. So yes, if you drive a quad, I really recommend snow tires.
  11. Driving R1S on 22s in snow

    Depends on whether you are running Enduro motors or the QM. The DM machines are pretty predictable in snow and slippery stuff, even on street tires. The QM's are a different animal, and can be a real challenge when not on the proper tires.
  12. My cold weather charging experience.. not great.

    Always spring for the L2 at the cabin. Even when Tesla does open up, you will never regret having L2 at home! ??
  13. OTA 2023.50.01 Software is Out! (w/ departure & preconditioning scheduling)!

    Yes, battery gets preconditioned if needed when climate control is activated remotely.
  14. Rivian software update spotlight: Cimate Schedules & the Battery Preconditioning

    DMs need to create far less heat to do the job, because the oil bath pulls it more efficiently off the coils. So whereas you will see them heat up a bit, you won't ever see the high heat the Bosch motors have to create just to export a little bit.
  15. Battery warming drain

    No sir, that is very wrong. Both charging and discharging of lithium batteries outside of proper operating ranges can, and absolutely will permanently damage the battery...
  16. Battery warming drain

    Being able to leave the vehicle plugged in, even if it's just to 110 will certainly help.
  17. Rivian software update spotlight: Cimate Schedules & the Battery Preconditioning

    Not much solace to QM drivers, but they did fix this issue in the DM, making it much more efficient.
  18. Rivian software update spotlight: Cimate Schedules & the Battery Preconditioning

    The vehicle preconditions the battery when the climate is turned on if needed. Yes, it does this, and it did it on earlier software stacks as well. Yes, the vehicle does this by using the motor(s) windings as heating elements. It does not always use all the motors (on the DM), I have seen it...





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