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it is a double edged sword like you said. Resources that are going into the vans are resources not going into our R1Ts and R1Ss. But. That also means more real world testing and data so we get a more refined product. I would rather they work out the problems with Amazon vans than customers...

amazing how Rivian blue changes with different lighting.

I didn't mean I'm cancelling. I don't expect my R1T till next year. I'm just saying if I had been holding for 2 years then this might have done me in, with all the little stories and no real info

I don't know how some of you long term reservation holders are doing it. This story may have put me over the edge to cancel

I'm hoping a youtuber gets one, even if it's a loaner to promote Rivian. Would like to see the TFL guys or Sandy Munroe get one.

Maybe we get a teaser for more info soon

My opinion on the matter is that the secrecy is due to the upcoming IPO. You don't want to announce delays or other issues while banks are trying to gauge investor sentiment. It will continue, anything material will need to be released in a regulated manner if it could be considered market moving.

You guys bring up such great points about stealth mode. This will be huge for turkey hunting and trying to locate birds from the road.

The R1T will be my first EV, so I'm just excited to have an EV and the benefits that come with it. A feature that really spoke to me, was the 4 motor drive system. Not even sure why, it's not like I will ever rock crawl. But if I wanted to I could. Also, I'm tired of going to dealerships.

Are we getting that tailgate? If not then the video is worthless

Would it not be better for Rivian to come out and say, "theres another delay, give us a few more months", instead of this trickle of info. I feel like we have more and more questions due these little tidbits of info. Why would they not give us a video walk through of the interior if it was...

absolutely gorgeous..............but I already knew that

Solid power is a SPAC. The investor presentation can say what ever they want to say because its all aspirational. They have a lab battery that is only 15-20% better then current batteries and probably doesn't include the 4680 cells. I bet it will be 2030 before they mass produce a battery...

Good point. I think the problem with individual vehicle comparisons is what do you compare to get an apples to apples comparison while also using vehicles that have been around several years. For example a Mach E compared to model Y????. But the Mach E hasn't been around long enough to give...

You are correct. Because Ford and GM are public traded companies we can look at their quarterly earnings reports. My understanding of these charts is that they are not really improving. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/F/ford-motor/profit-margins I would expect Tesla's profit margin...

By expanding one's ignore list would suggest differently, Commodore.:headbang:

Can't handle it if someone thinks differently than you? Ashame. I love discussion, debate and differing opinions. Thats how people become more informed.

About a year ago I would have agreed with you. But after my personal research, and watching several interviews with Sandy and others, I have come to my personal opinion on the subject. As far as SpaceX engineers, if it wasn't for them, we would still be using expendable rockets. Most rocket...

They certainly haven't made any strides in efficiency and profit margins, as the earnings reports show. The only way GM, Ford and others increase margins is by raising prices, and moving manufacturing to countries with cheaper labor. If you really want to know about the castings, look into...