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Well.. I came in here expecting a completely different discussion. NACS is objectively technically better than CCS, Smaller connector, less bulky cable, I may be remembering wrong but higher charge rate cap realistically. But like others have said the real advantage is the final settling on a...

no

they supposedly have started the process of them being delivered to customers so any day https://riviantrackr.com/news/second-gen-rivian-r1s-begin-delivering-to-customers/

Level 2 not level 3. I can’t give you a number because it’s not a fixed number or a fixed process. There is simply no fixed validation/testing/revalidating requirement for Rivian to meet for updating a level 2 system today. They could produce the upgrade run it through a trial style closed...

NHTSA ADAS testing is nowhere near as rigorous as FDA testing/validation. The comparison is not a valid one. Especially considering the NHTSA has no autonomy based testing requirements as of today their ADAS testing is specifically “ lane departure warning, forward collision warning, crash...

Except that's a misrepresentation of how ADAS safety validation is done. The numbers you're quoting are the costs spent to go from nothing to a a validated level 4 autonomy system. These costs go up exponentially as you progress through the SAE autonomy levels validation of level 1 systems like...

Maybe as a thank you for unkept promises and dead ending our updates so quickly G1 owners should get Connect+ for free in perpetuity

1) Disagree we’re not talking about going to the new architecture we’re talking about replacing the cameras they would still connect over their existing coax to retrofitted ADAS computer with similar spec to the new ADAS computer the software branches to do that would not be unmanageably...

Ya that’s kind of the point not a good look for Rivian to leave people who spent over $100k a month ago with a dead end product

Again disagree the economics are there to offer updated cameras and compute in gen 1. it doesn’t require the new architecture. I don’t even understand your dead end argument. it’s no more a dead end than any product, they don’t need to sell it at a loss and it keeps the early adopter good will...

you’re looking at it wrong. I understand those architecture changes. I’m not suggesting a retrofit changes the architecture from that perspective even in part it’s not necessary to.Upgraded Cameras and an upgraded ADAS computer could still function in the gen 1 architecture, the reverse is what...

I disagree with your reasoning the fact that tesla had more years of production under their belt at the time may have had some benefits sure but it also mean far more vehicles they needed to upgrade and eat the labour and parts costs. And they did it for free so the economies of scale had to be...

I understand that. Realistically I’m not looking for a full parity retrofit personally but there are features that are literally still promised on G1 on the website that they’re now saying are impossible they should offer some retrofit to get to that point. Your argument is based on today being...

Exactly. Personally I'd be happy and have no complaints with the current state of things if they at least found a way to deliver on these existing promises for G1 owners

I'd disagree with that. The soundbyte I'm referencing in my expectations was in regards to the phone charging mat which is most certanly hardware not software. RJ said something along the lines of yes we made the charger retrofittable, 80% of the changes will be available to existing owners...

Tesla playbook over promise under deliver. experience disappointment. I mean technically they said "Able to be added" as in paid retrofit but still

really glad I swapped to 20's now

gee wonder what those were inspired by https://nomadicsupply.com/black-rhino-voltaic-wheels-for-rivian-r1t-trucks/

Respectfully disagree. 1G R1's are going to see significant depreciation both because of the changes and the cost (eg perceived higher insurance costs vs competing vehicles including many non-evs) and Most used vehicles end up on dealership lots as trade-ins, so what happens when they don't...

I'll probably die crushed under the battery pack while eventually converting my 69 mustang to an EV drivetrain