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Fair play. You are right. I am wrong. 👍

Deprecated not depreciated, although depreciated is true also 😄

You're telling me. They won't even say how much upgraded rims, paint, or interior is. Why hold back that pricing when you told us everything else? Silly at best.

Edit: I’m an idiot. Keep scrolling. 😄 Well that's definitely wild speculation on your part and I would say a pretty bad straw man argument also. They're not doing a Gen2.5 hardware. It's Gen2 hardware at launch and then Gen3 before end of year as RJ already stated. I'm pretty sure RJ said...

Total is 65 megapixels in Gen3 vs 55 megapixels in Gen2. Thread is below with the sources given there. "2. The Cameras: Similar, but NOT the same ones from R1 Rivian is sticking with the 11-camera layout we know from R1, but they’ve given everything a nice little spec bump. Slightly higher...

Not how I read it, but I'm happy to be wrong. "R2 Performance with Launch Package comes standard with our all-new Esker Silver, but there will be an array of colors to choose from. In addition to the option of Launch Green, customers can select all-new Catalina Cove, all-new Half Moon Grey...

Forest Green probably feels old to this forum as it was on R1, but it's not commonplace to the rest of us looking for our first Rivian. That's what I'll be getting! Super sharp looking

Is there really that many people that want a purple car? I think that is one of the least produced colors for cars in the world. Shoutout to you guys though!

I'm only partially kidding, but it's really just CYA legalease for when inevitably Gen3 diverges from Gen2 autonomy hardware. The timeline of when that is no one knows. Could be 3 years, 5 years, etc.

I think it's literally just to reduce headaches while ramping. I mean they're only building like 25k of them this year, right? Dial in the lines then add options later. Standard manufacturing playbook.

First sentence means once Gen3 is released it'll be deprecated :CWL:

Serious question: why do you/we need a rear wiper? There isn't a rear wiper on sedans. The heating elements defrost the glass for you.

Sooo is Coastal Cloud light grey and not white? I'm all in if it's not white...

I thought the same thing. The embedded tweets dead giveaway :rolleyes:

I know but I don't see Porsche's like that often, I see lots of Hyundai's lol. To each his own of course. Wife and I think the forest green is more tank vibes

My wife hates it and said Forest Green or don't buy the car. What are we buying a Hyundai?!? :CWL:

Ok so you're saying we have 3 metrics here? Rivian estimated EPA estimated Rivian EPA estimated I am familiar with the first two for all OEM's, as they give you their own estimate before EPA testing. That is why the R2 standard says "345 miles estimated range" currently as it has not been EPA...

I probably just feel that way bc I've own(ed) Tesla's in the past and have seen how this game goes. Maybe the word "insane" was too strong of wording in my original post :D

It says 330 EPA estimate on Rivian's website. I gave the link lol.

Well we are on a Rivian enthusiast forum here, not at a dealership where some regular Joe is buying a Toyota. Two completely different consumers. Regardless, I think you missed the point I was making. Rivian is the lucky beneficiary Tesla's mistakes. It is far more obvious now the compute...