So you are saying the size, thermal mass, charge rate and discharge rate don't matter for LFP applications?
I don't think you read my post that well, but feel free to hand-wave away all the technical details in my post without addressing them.
Edit: Please read the two followup posts below...
I don't think that comparison applies here. This low voltage LFP battery is a very small battery with low thermal mass, very low charge rates, and minimal power output. The cold-weather limitations of LFP mainly appear when charging or discharging at high rates.
Model 3 and Y are the one's I know about with low voltage LFP so we're talking millions of vehicles. I don't know if they are heated or not, but there's been no evidence that there is some huge downside to them. If anything, you rarely hear about replacement of low voltage with Tesla anymore...
Why haven't these problems shown up in the millions of vehicles that have these LFP low voltage batteries? Cars that are sold in Norway and Canada. You guys are talking about hypotheticals that aren't showing up in practice with OEMs that have implemented low voltage LFP.
A lot of it has to do with safety rules that were changed around that time so this was one way car manufacturers could address it. But laminated is not technically required so there might be other solutions I don't know about.
First real winter for R2 customers won't be until late this year. Not sure there will be much independent winter testing till then.
R1 and R2 have higher ground clearance. Wonder if that could hurt thermals just like it does with efficiency and range?
There might be a point where this happens but it could be years away when the software is ready. Most of the lidar value initially seems to be for data collection so little direct benefit to the end customer. Which is why Gen 2 has plenty of room to improve and get software updates long after...
No way to guess realistically. We don't even have final pricing, trims and range to even gauge how popular it will be. Even a wild guess today would be somewhere in 2027. March 12th might give a better idea.
It's two separate boards, but I guess they package them together as one full module? So it comes down to whether they are delaying the one autonomy board or the whole thing that includes infotainment. Definitely something Rivian should clarify.
IIRC, this was the best article about it...
This does not sound accurate. Do you have a source that XMM3 isn't coming at R2 launch? The only thing i have found publicly that's coming later is Gen 3 autonomy and lidar. It would be hard to take this at face value that R2 infotainment is delayed as it would be pretty big news posted...
Speculation is that 2027 Highlander starts at $55k so it would compete more with the EV9 as a 3 row. Looks like it will easily get optioned up into the 60s. Although on specs like battery size and charging, it looks like it will be similar to R2.
Let's say Rivian gave us a max pack with R2 but same architecture, would you end up with more range in the same time? Not necessarily faster than the 30 minutes announced so far, but maybe more range in the same time?
If charging is fast and even more convenient, I might use it on even more road trips. Plus in the above TexasBob scenario it's adding time but also doubling the number of stops.
For people who already have EVs, it's an easier choice since you have more experience and understand your...
Maybe the way they have wired it makes power loss of both sources less likely? That's on Rivian to prove though. Do they check all this after crash tests to see of exiting the vehicle is still possible and not compromising both power sources at the same time?
At Rivian's volume ambitions of 175k per year just out of Normal and not including the one's in Georgia, I don't think most people will be taking Rivian R2s off road. That's why on-road characteristics like ride quality and even autonomy matters so much in R2 design.
With the limited great EV...
Yes. RWD BMW iX3 will drop their prices below $60k. If you can get the large pack for the RWD version, it could be a range monster with fast charging. People can say they don't need it, but they will definitely take it when included in the price of the car.