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Before tesla had eye tracking the system was harder to defeat. Not easier. I think you're referring to using a weight on the steering wheel which does not work. Tesla detects constant torque and it gives you a strike and shuts off FSD. In fact Tesla is the only manufacturer with a strike system...

Tesla's system is safer than that. It pulls over to the side of the road and shuts off if you are asleep or not paying attention. In the case of an accident it even pulls over and puts the hazards on. In the case of the cameras being blinded it performs a minimum risk maneuver and will not shut...

I have both and the answer is that if you have no blended braking then max regen is the theoretical most efficient way to drive. Old tesla models have strong regen because they do not have blended braking. New model Y has blended braking which negates any advantage strong regen has. Strong OPD...

I wonder how many Rivian software upgrades cannot be implemented because they use android automotive? For example, the radio delay is an issue with the operating system and not a Rivian issue. Cars that don't use android automotive do not have this issue. Creep, crawl and coast can't come...

Level 2++ is useless. What we are discussing in this thread is self driving aka UNSUPERVISED. Ignoring tesla's misleading use of the word FSD we are talking about unsupervised in this thread. RJ says consumers won't buy a car without autonomy. He means unsupervised. Delivering at scale instead...

Look at tesla robotaxi service. Even to scale to 20 cities WITH safety monitors they have to build depots in every city they operate. Even the path to delivering 1000 cars on the robotaxi network is hard. Elon mentioned in one earnings call that tesla will raise money to fund robotaxi if they...

Did I deny? I am just asking to see proof of these dozens of deaths Tesla finally released more apples to apples safety data including a tracker of FSD usage. 6.5 billion miles with presumably 50% of accidents being not-at fault. Data shows 2x improvement in serious accident rate. There will...

Self driving costs billions of dollars to develop. Tesla spent more than 10 billion on training compute and storage. Rivian has historically been very bad at cheaply developing advanced techologies. Their spending has historically been very inefficient. Rivian does not have this money. This is...

Level 3 driving (mercedes) requires a lead car, below 45mph,premapped/validated roads, sunny weather only, no wet roads, perfect markings, no construction, no emergency vehicles, and no driving during sunrise/sunset/night. Under those conditions cameras can perform with 100% reliability. In...

it's because they don't have the skills to do monocular depth estimation. If you are doing backbone vision driving (which rivian will be doing with L2++ end to end) then doing level 3 with vision only is trivial Mercedes' lidar placement is low to the ground. it is not optimal for anything...

L2++ is driver supervised. You can achieve 99.99+% reliability with cameras only. It is unknown whether lidar really adds something that you can't do with cameras until you test at scale. Rivian would have to surpass likely 100K miles per safety critical intervention (years away) before they can...

this is lidar. Which we will need to see how hidden it is. lidar is 100% not needed for L2++ and cameras are more than acceptable for level 3 (eyes-off) driving only Lots of manufacturers are removing lidar because they are both not using it and it makes no sense for level 2. Only for level 4...

I think the issue is people blame Tesla for beta testing on customers and deaths using FSD (find me them?) across 6.5 billion miles. And somehow Rivian is taking the higher ground in delaying the release of half-assed software purely due to a skill issue. When FSD was bad back in 2020, you had...

People forget that eventually UHF and these level 4 systems are not driving assistance software. They are driving replacement software which allows you to own your own car and road trip while you are sleeping. Even if you prefer to drive a car consumers won't buy a car without this. And the...

These companies have thousands of employees in china (lesser paid) working on this technology. They are also spending billions of dollars like Tesla is. They also have many more vehicles than rivian does. They are not even close to unsupervised even in small scale like FSD is. That would make...

I think you're simplifying a lot of things in the wrong way. TOPS refers to integer operations, which tesla runs 8-bit neural networks. Tesla might be the only self driving car using 8-bit. The tesla FSD AI4 computer has 50% more memory bandwidth than Nvidia's Thor computer. High bandwidth...