Rivian drops Max Pack from latest post? ?

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personally on road trips there are places I don’t stop if I can help it(all of Saskatchewan for example), and lots of places where there just isn’t charging on the way to where I need to go(pretty much anyplace off the trans-canada, here). Not to mention…winter. I’ve done enough winter trips with an EV to decide the larger battery is a requirement.

Bigger battery capacity makes more sense. If my gas car had an option for a larger gas tank, I’d take it.

another upside to the higher capacity battery is getting more range at battery health-friendly states of charge.

On our road trip with the Hummer, I ended up settling on it being fastest to charge to mid 50% range instead of higher, if that was all that was needed to get to the next station (or home). Charging to 80-90% occasionally happened if we stopped for a meal, which usually took well over an hour. The first 40% was closer to 20 minutes.

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[gordonrands]

For some, maybe most, sure. But anyone with an eye to towing beyond their local metro area or doing much off-grid travel in remote areas will need the max pack. I daily drive a car with 110 miles of range with zero issue and still take it up into the mountains. In my case the Rivian will replace my electric MINI and my off-road/tow-pig 4Runner and I'm hoping the Rivian will actually allow me to tow the race car where my 4Runner's towing capacity isn't high enough since I ditched my Miata.

Umm…. Ok. Nothing you said correlates to my statements being irrational. Am I willing to consider a better offer or a different product that comes along if it fits me better? Yes, absolutely. Lightning fits most of my needs, but falls short in the battery department for towing and camping. Yet I’m buying it because it more than handles my day to day truck needs. And yea, actually buying, have my VIN and production date next week.

Same can be said for the R1T with the large pack. it has some advantages over the Lightning and falls short in other ways.
I’ve driven both, have spent a lot of time with an R1T as a friend has had his for several months now. If I have to pick between the R1T and Lightning when both offer ~300 miles of range, I’ll go Lightning for the roomier interior, more usable frunk and bit larger, especially deeper bed. Not to mention the onboard power abilities. That doesn’t mean I won’t still covet things in the R1T like the gear tunnel. Lightning is slightly more practical for me but the two overlap in most ways it’s been a hair-pulling endeavor to decide which one I want. After spending time with both. This is not an irrational decision but one made after countless hours of consideration. And yet it’s still a difficult decision. So with that it stands. If Rivian builds me a 400+ mile truck, I’m buying it. Otherwise I’m not and will pass and see what the next generation brings. A logical what-if about a product they have announced. And so far they’ve delivered pretty well on everything else they’ve announced… camp kitchen aside.

A mirage? Really? This whole thing was a mirage to begin with. Many of us plunked down $1000 over 3 years ago on a mirage. We had faith and it turned into reality against great odds. I passed up the opportunity to order the LE so I could have the max pack. I’ve twice been offered the opportunity to buy from the R1 shop but no, I’m waiting for max pack. I was tempted to buy a couple times and I’ve looked at buying one but too many flippers at high prices and I’m not going to burn my early reservation and pricing in the R1 shop on something other than a max pack.

I passed on a Lightning I would have had in July due to concerns about range, despite the onboard power capabilities. (Come on Rivian, how about an outlet right behind the cab for plugging a winch into?)

I can't believe that Rivian will drop the Max Pack when Silverado and Cybertruck (yes, I think it really will get produced) will meet or exceed that range. Once they cede that market they aren't getting it back. For most of my driving a Large Pack will be more than adequate. But for those bucket list trips, especially the Alaska highway, I want the range. And there is no way I'm going to hang onto an ICE just to avoid range anxiety. If Rivian drops the Max pack, it will be a Silverado or a Cybertruck for me.

 

[zipzag]

I passed on a Lightning I would have had in July due to concerns about range, despite the onboard power capabilities. (Come on Rivian, how about an outlet right behind the cab for plugging a winch into?)

I can't believe that Rivian will drop the Max Pack when Silverado and Cybertruck (yes, I think it really will get produced) will meet or exceed that range. Once they cede that market they aren't getting it back. For most of my driving a Large Pack will be more than adequate. But for those bucket list trips, especially the Alaska highway, I want the range. And there is no way I'm going to hang onto an ICE just to avoid range anxiety. If Rivian drops the Max pack, it will be a Silverado or a Cybertruck for me.

Range isn't really the Alaska Highway problem for Rivian, its vehicle inefficiency. Charging overnight at 30A 120V doesn't give enough range for the next day. A typical 300 mile EV with good efficiency is better than a 400 mile Rivian/Lightning/Hiummer when access to DCFC is limited.

 

[IdahoNativeNate]

Range isn't really the Alaska Highway problem for Rivian, its vehicle inefficiency. Charging overnight at 30A 120V doesn't give enough range for the next day. A typical 300 mile EV with good efficiency is better than a 400 mile Rivian/Lightning/Hiummer when access to DCFC is limited.

Charging overnight at 120v is a poor decision in the first place. Get a 240v charger. Your post doesn't make much sense...

 

[Rivian_Hugh_III]

Rivian will have a Max Pack in 6-8 months by mid-2023. It will be a dual motor. Thus, if they use all 11 battery packs and if the two motors use less electricity than four… we could have a 500 or 600 mile Max Pack on tap.

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