Steering wheel volume control bug

[LTAflight]

Anyone else noticing the weird volume control behavior? I really hate navigation audio, so I always mute it. However in recent software versions if there is some kind of alert or muted directions and I am simultaneously trying to increase volume of the music, it only increase the navigation volume, NOT the music. It’s as though what the volume scroll wheel controls is dynamically changing.

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[electruck]

fyi, the volume control IS context sensitive (by design).

 

[LTAflight]

fyi, the volume control IS context sensitive (by design).

Can it be turned off? Context sensitivity is clunky UI. The car knows the context, but how would I know if I turned the navigation volume down?

 

[SANZC02]

Can it be turned off? Context sensitivity is clunky UI. The car knows the context, but how would I know if I turned the navigation volume down?

That is standard behavior, all of the cars I’ve had over the last few decades had the same behavior.

If you can wait a second after the prompt (navigation or other alerts) when sound returns to normal then adjust it. If you mute navigation prompts it will work how you prefer as well.

 

[godfodder0901]

Can it be turned off? Context sensitivity is clunky UI. The car knows the context, but how would I know if I turned the navigation volume down?

You know because whatever sound source is playing is the volume you are controlling. For example, if you are playing music, the volume controls your music app. If you ask Alexa for something and adjust the volume when she is responding, it controls Alexa volume. Pretty straightforward in my opinion.

 

[LTAflight]

Can it be turned off? Context sensitivity is clunky UI. The car knows the context, but how would I know if I turned the navigation volume down?

That is standard behavior, all of the cars I’ve had over the last few decades had the same behavior.

If you can wait a second after the prompt (navigation or other alerts) when sound returns to normal then adjust it. If you mute navigation prompts it will work how you prefer as well.

None of the cars I’ve owned for the last decade have done this. Not my 330i, not my Prius, not my rav4, not my model 3.

I will check as I drive for the next few days but muting the nav prompts doesn’t seem to change the behavior. I have had them muted for weeks, but if I increase volume when an alert is happening It increases the volume of nav alerts. Usually it’s only by 1 increment so I can’t even tell if there is anything coming through, but the sound system starts ducking the volume of music, which is annoying.

 

[LTAflight]

You know because whatever sound source is playing is the volume you are controlling. For example, if you are playing music, the volume controls your music app. If you ask Alexa for something and adjust the volume when she is responding, it controls Alexa volume. Pretty straightforward in my opinion.

if I’m playing music but the muted navigation is playing… why does the volume control control the navigation? It should be muted right? How do I know it’s playing something if it’s muted?
i can understand context when I control the context, but I don’t control the navigation alerts, and wouldn’t know they are playing, because they should be muted.

 

[SANZC02]

None of the cars I’ve owned for the last decade have done this. Not my 330i, not my Prius, not my rav4, not my model 3.

I will check as I drive for the next few days but muting the nav prompts doesn’t seem to change the behavior. I have had them muted for weeks, but if I increase volume when an alert is happening It increases the volume of nav alerts. Usually it’s only by 1 increment so I can’t even tell if there is anything coming through, but the sound system starts ducking the volume of music, which is annoying.

Your Model 3 for sure should have the same behavior, my Model S does.

 

[godfodder0901]

if I’m playing music but the muted navigation is playing… why does the volume control control the navigation? It should be muted right? How do I know it’s playing something if it’s muted?
i can understand context when I control the context, but I don’t control the navigation alerts, and wouldn’t know they are playing, because they should be muted.

It still lowers the volume of the music playing when the navigation prompt plays, so wait until the music is back at full volume.

 

[LTAflight]

Ok, I drove it a short distance and couldn’t reproduce. So it may be my error. But I’ve had the nav muted, and when muted there is no volume ducking, however occasionally I swear that somehow I’m adjusting the nav volume, and its extremely annoying, as by the time it’s clear what’s happening the context has switched back and now I’m controlling music volume again.
I will assume that this is user error for now, but continue to monitor.
thank you all for the feedback and help!

 

[pointless]

When navigation audio is on Chime only (not announced directions) it still DUCKS THE AUDIO for the entirety of the would-be dictions. Maybe that what you experienced. I don’t know why it isn’t just ducked for a second before and after the actual chime.

Edit: Adjusting the source volume, when the source is being used is the same as Tesla.

 

[DD4ST]

Every vehicle I’ve owned (ICE + EV) with steering wheel volume control acts that way, i.e., whatever is playing is what it controls. Otherwise I think you would have to go into a menu for each device. Yes, sometimes this is a pain when I want to adjust navigation volume because I have to wait for a spoken prompt to adjust (quickly), but I think Rivian is following the norm here.

 

[Seano]

You can also adjust all the volumes anytime from the touchscreen

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