Not possible to turn off 1 pedal driving?

[kryptokat]

Why not just give the option to turn off OPD? After all it is just another minimal tweak in the software.

I am a fan of Coasting. My OPD taste varies with the driving conditions. In congested traffic OPD is awesome and reduces stress of driving. In the twisties without any other occupants, it allows for more spirited driving without constant ankle twists. However, with other occupants spirited corner carving driving will increase the likelihood of motion sickness for the passengers. On the back roads and highways, I enjoy no OPD option where I can relax and coast without constant attention to the throttle. I can pump the 'gas' every now and then and let go to coast, find it to be more comfortable than constant application of pressure to dial in the right amount of throttle to not engage regen.

I also favor the use of blended braking regen + friction for the brake pedal instead of just braking. I can only assume this adds a lot of complexity to be able to tune it for smoothness, but other brands have pulled it off.

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[CANCERDOC]

For someone that has only driven EV without ICE experience, no regen induces a short "omg we are careening out of control" feeling.

Most drivers new to EVs will feel regen as herky jerky. Those new to ICE will fair much worse in control, smoothness, reaction time, and safety.

Thanks now I feel ancient! It’s like people who have never used an actual computer and grew up only with tablets and iPhones.

One pedal driving is awesome.

 

[SwampNut]

Why not just give the option to turn off OPD?

Because dummies would do it, and waste energy, brake pads, and then whine that their range is half of the promised range.

 

[DuoRivian]

Why not just give the option to turn off OPD? After all it is just another minimal tweak in the software.

I am a fan of Coasting. My OPD taste varies with the driving conditions. In congested traffic OPD is awesome and reduces stress of driving. In the twisties without any other occupants, it allows for more spirited driving without constant ankle twists. However, with other occupants spirited corner carving driving will increase the likelihood of motion sickness for the passengers. On the back roads and highways, I enjoy no OPD option where I can relax and coast without constant attention to the throttle. I can pump the 'gas' every now and then and let go to coast, find it to be more comfortable than constant application of pressure to dial in the right amount of throttle to not engage regen.

I also favor the use of blended braking regen + friction for the brake pedal instead of just braking. I can only assume this adds a lot of complexity to be able to tune it for smoothness, but other brands have pulled it off.

Rivian know better than you on EVs so accept it or buy another vehicle.

 

[Swezey]

It's hilarious that people still bring this up.

We definitely could use an explainer video to break it down. My wife was also hung up on this for the longest time. Some people can't handle change. It's scares them.

One pedal driving is the absolute best.
Leave it in max regen mode. Learn to modulate the pedal.

This is also how you coast. You simple don't take your foot all the way off.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Rivian know better than you on EVs so accept it or buy another vehicle.

Exactly. Rivian took the direction they took. They could change their mind later, or not. The car is how it is today. If you want a car today and the R2 is not for “you”, and you cannot accept any explanation for why it is they way it is (OP did ask), then it’s obviously not the one. Move along. It’s not the only car available. Not going to convince/convert anyone with belabored arguments. And even if you did, so what? Life goes on and there is no trophy for your efforts.

 

[Utah-Jay]

I am a big fan of the high regen setting for OPD even though I never did it prior to my day 1 Demo in the R2.

I am also a big fan of those who don’t like the OPD technology in the R2…. If they drop their reservation that just moves mine up

 

[mkg3]

Because dummies would do it, and waste energy, brake pads, and then whine that their range is half of the promised range.

...but that's their choice, right?

You mean the brakes would wear like their ICE vehicle and that the range drops just like the MPG drops in real life compared to the EPA MPG because they are dashing and stomping on their brakes?

I believe its a matter of choice, and I also concur that if one feels strongly enough about the OPD and don't like it, like the OP, and Rivian doesn't offer it, buying something else is the best option. There are alternatives.

 

[SwampNut]

You mean the brakes would wear like their ICE vehicle and that the range drops just like the MPG drops in real life compared to the EPA MPG because they are dashing and stomping on their brakes?

Yes, exactly, and as a society we've decided that we're going to "force" change on people in order to improve the environment and our health. Which of these choices do you also lament losing?

Cars with no airbags.
Catalytic converters and other pollution controls.
ABS.
Impact absorption/crumple zones.
Mandatory car seats and attachment points for infants.
Etc

 

[RPM R2]

Back from my R2 demo drive. I set it to the lowest level of regen.

I got used to it right away and I liked that it actually stopped the car completely at stop lights for example. I think I used the brake maybe once on the whole drive.

I don’t love that you can’t really coast, so you have to constantly have contact with the go pedal and use that to de-celerate at the pace you want.

Will I get used to it, yes, will I ever truly enjoy it, probably not.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Will I get used to it, yes, will I ever truly enjoy it, probably not.

Not with that attitude. Keep open mind. Humans once fought idea of automobiles. We all know how that turned out.

 

[Mos Eisley]

Why not just give the option to turn off OPD? After all it is just another minimal tweak in the software.
I seriously doubt it’s a minimal tweak. The braking in R2 is a full-on blended hybrid and all of the driving dynamics and calculations the car is making around handling are dependent on that.

 

[Jim G]

Too many people on here take the attitude that there is only one solution for everybody. One pedal driving IS NOT always better And Rivian should allow all options, IMO. I have had an R1T for two years and an Audi eTron for four years. While I have gotten used to the R1T one pedal driving, my driving still creates some riding uneasiness in my family because any small foot move translates to vehicle jerkiness. My Audi, on the other hand, works just like your Porsche (same company!) and I like it better. I get regen when I want to stop and can coast when I want to. There are also paddles on the column to regen without using the brake. The ride is smoother and efficiency is on par or better than my Rivian. It is a much more sophisticated implementation.

I agree - there are benefits to both. I'd love to coast on a wide open hightway or know that when I shut off cruise control that I won't be jerking around my passengers. I see the point of single pedal enthusiasts too -- especially in congested areas.

 

[Rivdog]

Almost everyone says you’ll get used to it, and that’s true to an extent, but I’m not sure you’ll ever like it. I strongly dislike 1 pedal driving and I’ve had my truck for over 3 years. I tolerate it, but will never like it.

There’s no perfect vehicle and they all have pros and cons. Overall, the pros still vastly weigh the cons IMO. These are exceptional vehicles, especially at the R2 price point.

 

[tbinmd]

Because dummies would do it, and waste energy, brake pads, and then whine that their range is half of the promised range.

not so, at least the way Porsche has implemented things, the brake pads are never touched unless it’s a panic braking situation. Coasting actually can gain more range then regen can recoup.

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