Official Range Reduction by Wheel Size

[Max]

I'll just leave this here...

Nice. 354 miles on 20s in all purpose gives me hope. Is this with mostly in town/city miles?

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[AllInev]

I saw that last night too, and assumed it was old news. Maybe not.

Worth noting though that Kyle from out of spec did about 295 miles on the 20 inch all-terrains.

Sorry ?, yes, I'm being "that guy" and pointing out that @OutofSpecKyle reported on his video not 295, but both 289 and 290 miles as his reported range. See attached screenshot from his video.

 

[Rod]

305 miles...All-Terrain Tires in Conserve Mode. Did a road trip from NJ to NC.

 

[godfodder0901]

Nice. 354 miles on 20s in all purpose gives me hope. Is this with mostly in town/city miles?

Yeah. I usually top at 55-60 but only for a few miles.

 

[Rod]

I am not sure what this dude’s actual range is but his guestimator is hoping for 305(conserve on 20s). Love to see what 21s are getting on conserve.

Haha, that's me.

 

[Kmann1994]

Sorry ?, yes, I'm being "that guy" and pointing out that @OutofSpecKyle reported on his video not 295, but both 289 and 290 miles as his reported range. See attached screenshot from his video.

Did you really feel the need to correct me over a difference of 6 miles? I also said "about" 295 in my original message. Near as makes no difference – 300 miles.

 

[DuckTruck]

Seems some of us have heavier feet than others.

Yeah, after last weekend's shenanigans, and with adaptive learning capabilities, my R1T told me that my expected Sport range was now only 172 miles. The good news is that the interior cameras and the UI recorded a 303% readout on the "Grin-O-Meter".

??? "Mission Accomplished!"

I'm guessing a return to prudent practices will increase the expected range "soon".....

And, yes, I'm kidding about the range, but not the grins.....

 

[AllInev]

I am not sure what this dude’s actual range is but his guestimator is hoping for 305(conserve on 20s). Love to see what 21s are getting on conserve.

For those new-ish to this forum, here are some results from Edmunds who did a range test on the 21" wheels: https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/te...s-epa-range-by-3-miles-epic-inefficiency.html

 

[AllInev]

Did you really feel the need to correct me over a difference of 6 miles? I also said "about" 295 in my original message. Near as makes no difference – 300 miles.

To be fair, I did pre-apologize for being "that guy." ?

It's actually kind of funny that everyone (including the EPA, manufacturers, car mags, YouTube reviewers, etc) all report these range numbers down to the nearest mile of precision. I feel like they should at least include some kind of +/- qualification to these numbers.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

What’s really impressive is the 22s. Its only a 6% loss to go from aero covers and low rolling resistance to a sticky compound without aero covers. Tire compound alone could easily eat up that difference.

 

[Zoidz]

To be fair, I did pre-apologize for being "that guy." ?

It's actually kind of funny that everyone (including the EPA, manufacturers, car mags, YouTube reviewers, etc) all report these range numbers down to the nearest mile of precision. I feel like they should at least include some kind of +/- qualification to these numbers.

They do provide a ton of +/- qualifications, that's why it's referred to as an estimate.

"...Can travel about..."

"Actual results will vary..."

 

[DB-EV]

Yeah, after last weekend's shenanigans, and with adaptive learning capabilities, my R1T told me that my expected Sport range was now only 172 miles. The good news is that the interior cameras and the UI recorded a 303% readout on the "Grin-O-Meter".

??? "Mission Accomplished!"

I'm guessing a return to prudent practices will increase the expected range "soon".....

And, yes, I'm kidding about the range, but not the grins.....

Duck, you got it, awesome!!!

 

[Mister Person]

The data point we really need is the 20” wheels with all season or road tires. Hopefully someone will take the hit and do that experiment for us.

 

[CyberKentuckian]

Kyle ran in full conserve mode. I feel like the 21" is the quoted EPA estimate that was in part all purpose and part conserve, and the other 2 sizes are in All Purpose Mode.

EPA is also a mix of driving situations whereas (IIRC) Kyle's was 100% highway.

 

[Forager]

Glad to see the message about air density’s effect on range is finally spreading. As scientific as Out Of Spec attempts to be, I am surprised this isn’t discussed during their range tests.

There’s a market for range tests conducted near sea level ?

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