What a difference a charger makes (Pasadena)

[abirozy]

Good morning everyone.

All I have to say is WOW, what a difference a charger makes. For those of you near Pasadena, you should stop by the Pasadena Charging station at 64 Glenarm, just off the 134.

Today was the first day taking my R1T to work in Pasadena. They have a few charging stations but their newest is at 64 Glenarm just where the 134 begins. I plugged in and WOW. I stayed at 340 miles of range per hour till I was almost at 70% SOC then only dropped down to about 250 miles of range per hour. Previous to that, I had only been on 50kwh chargers getting 110 miles of range per hour.

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[Gator42]

No pics? What's the matter with you?

 

[Denver_Paulie]

Today was the first day taking my R1T to work in Pasadena. They have a few charging stations but their newest is at 64 Glenarm just where the 134 begins. I plugged in and WOW. I stayed at 340 miles of range per hour till I was almost at 70% SOC then only dropped down to about 250 miles of range per hour. Previous to that, I had only been on 50kwh chargers getting 110 miles of range per hour.



Free charging, regardless of the speed is always good. And, thanks for sharing.

Just as FYI, in CCS world we don't use "miles of range per hour," we measure Kw. The "miles of range per hour" is a Tesla thing used to distract people into thinking they may be charging really fast when they are only pulling 120Kw of charging speed. This explains why you will not find a reference to "miles of range per hour" on an Electrify America charing unit (see picture below).

Also, we are a simple lot on this site, so we like pictures of charging speeds and charging curves. Glad that you had a great charging session, be we want to see details!

Enjoy the new truck!

 

[DJG]

Today was the first day taking my R1T to work in Pasadena. They have a few charging stations but their newest is at 64 Glenarm just where the 134 begins. I plugged in and WOW. I stayed at 340 miles of range per hour till I was almost at 70% SOC then only dropped down to about 250 miles of range per hour. Previous to that, I had only been on 50kwh chargers getting 110 miles of range per hour.



Free charging, regardless of the speed is always good. And, thanks for sharing.

Just as FYI, in CCS world we don't use "miles of range per hour," we measure Kw. The "miles of range per hour" is a Tesla thing used to distract people into thinking they may be charging really fast when they are only pulling 120Kw of charging speed. This explains why you will not find a reference to "miles of range per hour" on an Electrify America charing unit (see picture below).

Also, we are a simple lot on this site, so we like pictures of charging speeds and charging curves. Glad that you had a great charging session, be we want to see details!

Enjoy the new truck!

Sounds like a simple 150kw DCFC.

 

[2020]

Welcome to the world of Tesla where you are used to fast charging. This is my first non Tesla electric car. This is what the manufacturers and dealers will not tell you- there are very few fast charging stations out there. The vast majority are level 2 chargers of which really are impractical.

 

[Dirty_B]

BEST OF ALL….. It is free.

Ain't nothing free...

 

[Gator42]

Ain't nothing free...

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[ajdelange]

Just as FYI, in CCS world we don't use "miles of range per hour," we measure Kw.

Most in the Tesla world - in fact in the world at large - look at charge rate in kW, charge in kWH and consumption in Wh/mi though most manufacturers, including I think Rivian, indicate in their displays or in their apps miles added per charge and or the rate at which miles are being added.

The "miles of range per hour" is a Tesla thing used to distract people into thinking they may be charging really fast when they are only pulling 120Kw of charging speed.

From Tesla app charging screen:

Do you see mile per hour on there anywhere? I think you may be able to find it on a screen in the car but for the savvy Tesla owner it kW, kWh and Wh/m (and, of course, %SoC on the battery). I am very disappointed that Rivian has chosen to do things the way it has (mi/kWh).

 

[Denver_Paulie]

Welcome to the world of Tesla where you are used to fast charging. This is my first non Tesla electric car. This is what the manufacturers and dealers will not tell you- there are very few fast charging stations out there. The vast majority are level 2 chargers of which really are impractical.

This is simply NOT TRUE and you need to educate yourself before spewing bull$hit on this site.

I have owned a Audi e-Tron and two Porsche Taycan's in the past three and a half years after owning multiple Model S' and multiple Model X's, so I come with much more experience than you in the EV world.

Is the CCS fast charging infrastructure as dense as Tesla's? It is almost there except for very remote places in eastern Montana or North Dakota. Last time I checked a Porsche Taycan owns the EV cannonball record, so tell me about the world of fast charging.

I am tired of hearing ignorant Tesla owners spew this kind of bull$hit and the blind belief that Tesla is the "the $hit" is why I will never buy another product from a company owned by Elon Musk again.

 

[Denver_Paulie]

Most in the Tesla world - in fact in the world at large - look at charge rate in kW, charge in kWH and consumption in Wh/mi though most manufacturers, including I think Rivian, indicate in their displays or in their apps miles added per charge and or the rate at which miles are being added.


From Tesla app charging screen:

Do you see mile per hour on there anywhere? I think you may be able to find it on a screen in the car but for the savvy Tesla owner it kW, kWh and Wh/m (and, of course, %SoC on the battery). I am very disappointed that Rivian has chosen to do things the way it has (mi/kWh).

Thank you for sharing that. I have not owned a Tesla in over three years, so am not privy to the details of the Tesla app these days.

"Savvy Tesla owner?" That is a rare breed!!

 

[Gator42]

...that escalated quickly ...

 

[zefram47]

This is what the manufacturers and dealers will not tell you- there are very few fast charging stations out there.

Patently false. Quit spreading this bullshit. Take a gander at https://plugshare.com and set the filter for CCS. There are tons of stations all over the place save for Wyoming and Montana. The infrastructure bill contained billions to beef up the CCS charging infrastructure even more and those installs should be starting later this year.

This is simply NOT TRUE and you need to educate yourself before spewing bull$hit on this site.
...
I am tired of hearing ignorant Tesla owners spew this kind of bull$hit and the blind belief that Tesla is the "the $hit" is why I will never buy another product from a company owned by Elon Musk again.

Amen to that. So sick and tired of the Teslarati spreading this shit that they haven't a clue about in most cases.

 

[ajdelange]

I am tired of hearing ignorant Tesla owners spew this kind of bull$hit and the blind belief that Tesla is the "the $hit" is why I will never buy another product from a company owned by Elon Musk again.

Can't fault that logic!

 

[DJG]

I am very disappointed that Rivian has chosen to do things the way it has (mi/kWh).

This isn't as big a deal as you think it will be, as you won't be needing that information as much as you do in the Tesla, because the vehicle's computer is doing the work for you in range planning. In Tesla, you can't rely on the projected range because it doesn't take environmental and circumstantial factors into account. However, in the Rivian, you only need to look at the range and that is what it is. It's shown to be extremely accurate (at least if not more so than a human would be). It's the same experience I've had in Audi, I can see consumption in kwh/100mi, but it's only for curiosity sake, I've never had to apply it to anything in my travels.

Rivian has taken the approach they have because their data shows that 80% of orders are first time EV buyers, and so they want to make it as easy to understand as possible. It results in less information being given for those that are just nerdy and curious though. It also leads to less education of the user base of what it all means, so that's another side effect.

 

[ajdelange]

Amen to that. So sick and tired of the Teslarati spreading this shit that they haven't a clue about in most cases.

Well the Teslerati do know the Tesla side and there is so much excellent engineering there that even Sandy Munroe (who most wouldn't consider ignorant) is left speechless. The super charging network was/is a stroke of genius. One can set out in a Tesla without much or any planning and be confident that he will be able to reach his destination with as much comfort (mental) as he could in his ICE car.

Any fool can pull up ABRP or PlugShare and see that the other "network" is approaching parity in terms of station density but we also see that if we plan a trip using the other network we are taken further off route to reach a high powered charger, that reports of stations down are much higher and that costs may well exceed what we used to pay in gas. Of course recent trends in gas prices may have more than "fixed" that problem. We still see the reviewers reporting "this terminal didn't work so we had to move to another one and that didn't work either so we had to call Electrofarad...." but we also see them reporting entire trips in which they had no charging issues on the CCS network. So we are encouraged but still a little bit nervous. We'd love to try it out but we can't get a truck.

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