Charge door behavior

[Flank Steak]

First week with my R1T and loving it! My charge door went non- responsive yesterday after a full charging at home. Stuck in the open position after the charger plug was removed. Tried the button, fob and dash interface. Plugged in and out a few times to see if that would help. Gave it a little manual nudge, Everything I could think of. On one try it began to close but only partially. Then I manually closed it more and tried again. It is opening and closing now but is not perfectly flush when closed. Anyone else?

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[mini2nut]

Sorry to hear.

Elon would have blown a gasket if one his Tesla engineers came up with this overly complex charging door design for the upcoming Cybertruck.

Rivian should have followed the KISS principle. The over engineered charging door simply adds cost, part numbers and the possibility of failure. But I will admit that its kind of cool?

 

[Marchin_MTB]

Haven’t experienced this problem on our T yet. Hope you can have it resolved soon. You may also try a soft or hard reset…

 

[crashmtb]

Sorry to hear.

Elon would have blown a gasket if one his Tesla engineers came up with this overly complex charging door design for the upcoming Cybertruck.

Rivian should have followed the KISS principle. The over engineered charging door simply adds cost, part numbers and the possibility of failure. But I will admit that its kind of cool?

It is not really overly complex compared to any other motorized charging door. It’s pretty clever. the motor pushes the cover out, and the rotating motion of the cover comes from a cam path on the shaft the cover is attached to.

 

[Marchin_MTB]

Sorry to hear.

Elon would have blown a gasket if one his Tesla engineers came up with this overly complex charging door design for the upcoming Cybertruck.

Rivian should have followed the KISS principle. The over engineered charging door simply adds cost, part numbers and the possibility of failure. But I will admit that its kind of cool?

Indeed. Not following KISS is kind of Rivians MO though. Everything from the four motors, motorized vents, to the auto tonneau.

 

[cohall]

It is not really overly complex compared to any other motorized charging door. It’s pretty clever. the motor pushes the cover out, and the rotating motion of the cover comes from a cam path on the shaft the cover is attached to.

Exactly. It's a simple motor just doing a push/pull. Not complex at all, relatively speaking.

 

[Flank Steak]

It is not really overly complex compared to any other motorized charging door. It’s pretty clever. the motor pushes the cover out, and the rotating motion of the cover comes from a cam path on the shaft the cover is attached to.

I appreciate the responses. It is the pulling back in part that is the problem . It seems like the mechanism can disengage and then it floats slightly without motion until reengaged.

 

[mindstormsguy]

Elon would have blown a gasket if one his Tesla engineers came up with this overly complex charging door design for the upcoming Cybertruck.

Riiiight. Because Tesla is famous for keeping things simple, like the doors on the Model X. ?

Give me a break.

 

[mini2nut]

All of his engineers and the vendor were against the complex Falcon door. It was WAY too complicated. Elon got his way of course and it bit him in the ass in warranty repairs and customer satisfaction.

 

[crashmtb]

I appreciate the responses. It is the pulling back in part that is the problem . It seems like the mechanism can disengage and then it floats slightly without motion until reengaged.

Sounds like there’s something getting caught maybe? Presumably there’s some provision to protect the motor/actuator/whatever, and that’s what’s happening.

curious to see what the cause is.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

All of his engineers and the vendor were against the complex Falcon door. It was WAY too complicated. Elon got his way of course and it bit him in the ass in warranty repairs and customer satisfaction.

It's always a balancing act though. If you make a car extremely simple and with all 100% tried and true engineering what is setting your vehicle apart from thousands of others? Why have your new company if you aren't going to set yourself apart? So it's easy to say that Rivian shouldn't have done this or that but how many innovative things have they done that work incredibly well?

All of them are a risk, but you have to take risks if you want to stand out. It's easy to use hindsight bias and say all the things that didn't work were stupid or overly complicated but the whole truck was trying to be advanced and you never know for sure what things are going to be a hit with the public.

 

[mini2nut]

Simplicity is the one area that shines on the new Lightning.

Ford knows a lot it's pickup customers reside in conservative, rural middle America where people want a meat and potatoes BEV pickup.

The Rivian trucks are chasing after the affluent city and suburb lifestyle customer where technology is expected to come on a vehicle with a premium price point.

 

[pfbz]

Elon would have blown a gasket if one his Tesla engineers came up with this overly complex charging door design for the upcoming Cybertruck.

Rivian should have followed the KISS principle. The over engineered charging door simply adds cost, part numbers and the possibility of failure. But I will admit that its kind of cool?

What? It was Elon who insisted on the ridiculously complex and impractical falcon doors and pedestal seats in the X that delayed its production almost a yeqr. Smart guy, and his persistence obviously pays off in many (even most) situations, but he is the king of never letting a go of a truly bad idea.

 

[Flank Steak]

I spoke with support and they asked for images and said a repair guy would likely need to visit. Awesome service so far! Regarding Tesla, we had a Model S 2021 which had a number of issues upon delivery. Panel gaps, frunk closure, floor panels came off, etc. It was a bad first impression for what ended up being a terrific vehicle. Tesla support process was poor, however.

 

[Engi_Nerd]

Any form of motorized charge door is a solution in search of a problem. The Rivian cam-style mechanism is certainly cute but then so is the tonneau sliding and stacking mechanism.

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