Anyone change to a Dual Motor?

[Taco]

Just wondering what Rivian did / how they handled that change. While we're enjoying the R1T we also have a R1S (Oct-Dec '23 Delivery, pre markup order) on order for my wife. She wants / likes the 21' tires which will give us the best range, but I'm thinking that with the Dual motor we might eek out a little more range and to be honest she has zero need for the quad.

While we can only make assumptions here, I'm thinking that there's a CHANCE (small) that the Rivian in house dual motor will be based on 800v system which could help charging times plus having 2 less motors should give a small bump in range. This car is going to be the family car so taking the little monsters all over the place and road trips here and there.

Could be dreaming but hey it's Christmas and totally fine to dream away. But really if anyone changed their preorder i'd love to hear from ya!

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[mini2nut]

The quad motor is overkill. The upcoming 600 or 700 hp Dual Motor version will be more than adequate for the vast majority of buyers. Also, less to go wrong after the warranty expires.

 

[krockett]

If you’re going to do that coming from a pre price increase order, then change it to the max battery dual motor/+ so you lock in the discount.

 

[Taco]

The quad motor is overkill. The upcoming 600 or 700 hp Dual Motor version will be more than adequate for the vast majority of buyers. Also, less to go wrong after the warranty expires.

Totally agree, now if we switch to the dual on the S, I'll do the enhanced version but that just depends on how Rivian handles everything. Having some difference between the two isn't a bad thing.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

I'm curious if these people who claim the dual motor is "more than adequate" have actually driven a quad motor R1T extensively?

Because I own one, and let me tell you that I actively want MORE power. These vehicles are HEAVY. That "820 hp" sounds like a lot, on paper, but really it isn't as much as you think it should be when driving it.

Don't get me wrong, it's no slouch... But it's not the electric sled that I was hoping for, based on the specs.

Give me a quad-variant with Enduro motors, 1200hp, and put the R1T on a serious diet (come on, why is the F150 Lightning larger and still considerably lighter??) and then maybe they'll get the power-to-weight ratio closer to where it should be.

 

[Taco]

Agree it lacks up top but the 0-65 it’s totally fine and once you’re past 65+ you’re in the position to meet your local law enforcement officer.

I agree the truck is pretty heavy but over time they’ll get the weight down, gotta remember this is their first go around.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

Agree it lacks up top but the 0-65 it’s totally fine and once you’re past 65+ you’re in the position to meet your local law enforcement officer.

I agree the truck is pretty heavy but over time they’ll get the weight down, gotta remember this is their first go around.

Off the line it’s sluggish. Just physics, really. Weight kills the power/feel. Off the line a CT200 (objectively slow) will get the jump, easily.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Off the line it’s sluggish. Just physics, really. Weight kills the power/feel. Off the line a CT200 (objectively slow) will get the jump, easily.

Something is wrong with your truck.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

Something is wrong with your truck.

There are many things wrong with my truck... But that's not relevant to this topic, imo. I've had a couple loaner R1Ts and they all exhibit the same issue. Physics cannot be escaped.

 

[brancky3]

Off the line it’s sluggish. Just physics, really. Weight kills the power/feel. Off the line a CT200 (objectively slow) will get the jump, easily.

Sluggish? With launch control? The launch is violent.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

Sluggish? With launch control? The launch is violent.

By "launch control" do you mean Sport mode, lowest ride height, foot on brake, floor accelerator, then lift off brake?

First of all, I wouldn't call it violent. Other vehicles are more dramatic at launch -- especially when considering special "modes".

Secondly, I've done it a couple times and it seriously fucked up my CV/half-shafts to the point that they had to be replaced. The design isn't robust, and I will be avoiding it (and would advise others to avoid, as well, if you care about reliability/longevity).

I am referring to NORMAL usage (all purpose) and most normal vehicles seem to easily walk away from the R1T from a red light (not trying to race... just drive reasonably normal). The weight is big and obvious.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I am referring to NORMAL usage (all purpose) and most normal vehicles seem to easily walk away from the R1T from a red light (not trying to race... just drive reasonably normal). The weight is big and obvious.

All purpose is intentionally power limited at low speeds to be smoother. My NORMAL usage is driving in sport lowest, which when just throwing the pedal all the way down is very comparable to doing the brake stand. Brake stand just lets you instantly go to 100% instead of having that slight delay that it takes to push the pedal down. If you're NOT trying to race, I don't understand your complaint? It's slow because you don't have the throttle down all the way?

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

All purpose is intentionally power limited at low speeds to be smoother. My NORMAL usage is driving in sport lowest, which when just throwing the pedal all the way down is very comparable to doing the brake stand. Brake stand just lets you instantly go to 100% instead of having that slight delay that it takes to push the pedal down.

The ride quality in Sport/Firm/Lowest is just awful, though. I can't possibly stand using that normally.

At most if I'm really in the mood in the twisties I can do Sport/Firm/Low (never Lowest) and even then I have to drop back to Soft if I'm not actively trying to push the vehicle.

 

[Dark-Fx]

The ride quality in Sport/Firm/Lowest is just awful, though. I can't possibly stand using that normally.

At most if I'm really in the mood in the twisties I can do Sport/Firm/Low (never Lowest) and even then I have to drop back to Soft if I'm not actively trying to push the vehicle.

It's significantly different after 2022.47

 

[MountainBikeDude]

After wrestling with the decision going back and forth between dual enhanced max, and quad large, I've decided to (well 90% sure) go with the quad large. After reading the drivetrain feature on the Rivian site, and listening to the interview with Rivians propulsion VP on RivianStories, it's clear the quad setup is their best offering, and the bulk of their drive modes, current and upcoming will be fully realized on that platform.

The lack of a quad max, is still like a lump of coal in my stocking on Christmas day, but it's difficult to justify what has now amounted to around 100 extra kilometres. Current epa is 328m for the large, and the "nearly 400 miles" projected for the Enduro max, it's just not enough to justify the expense any more. The quad large in my current config is 102k cdn, vs 135k for a non March. So the choice became more clear as I looked though things more carefully.

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