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Take this with a massive grain of salt.

Today I was on the trails and ran into a lady. She said she worked at Rivian and she asked me a bunch of questions on how I liked the truck. She was very knowledable and it was a great conversation. I told her the two things I disliked the most about the truck. One was, of course, the broken tonneau cover and the other was the lack of CarPlay support.

I don’t remember the exact quote, but she said it’s coming “s00n”. Seriously, she said soon.
I was talking with a customer service supervisor yesterday about some other things and mentioned these rumblings. He said they have certainly had a ton of requests for CarPlay, but he has heard nothing about it actually coming "s00n". As far as he knows they are still sticking to the script RJ communicated to me.
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As we all know, Rivian in their infinite wisdom believes they can build a better software experience than Apple or Google for in-car infotainment. As an owner I can now definitively say at this moment and for the foreseeable future that is not true. They simply lack the market presence and development resources to target all of the possible media and navigation applications their customers want to use. I know I am not alone in this analysis, and like many I am constantly petitioning Rivian to add CarPlay and Android Auto support. However, I'm not waiting around crossing my fingers for it to happen.

I purchased and installed the RoadTop 8.8" display. It is a Linux-based standalone and portable media unit typically used to add modern features to older vehicles, or in this case a brand-new, modern truck built by a new company with too much hubris. It has a wide screen display, which I prefer over the typical 4:3 units. It supports both CarPlay and Android Auto, wired via USB-A or wireless. It can connect to the vehicle's sound system using three different methods: an aux jack, an FM transmitter, or a bluetooth connection. It is powered by 12V. The design is better than most, though not perfect. The bezels are large, and it has a bit of a "chin" like an iMac. The screen resolution is also low (1280 x 480), but it's readable. The price is reasonable in my opinion at $290 shipped. It does come with a camera which is a waste in this application. It would be nice to see a SKU without it for a lower price.

Setup and installation was simple and straightforward. I mounted the screen above the existing Rivian infotainment using the included suction mount with boom arm. I then ran the power cable to the 12V port beneath the center air vents and powered on the screen. I removed the Rivian Audio connection from my iPhone and connected the iPhone via bluetooth to the RoadTop unit. It prompted me to start CarPlay, and within seconds it was up and running. I then connected the RoadTop as a bluetooth device to the Rivian infotainment and set the output appropriately. Boom, wireless CarPlay in a Rivian.

The 12V power is tied to the lock state of the truck. If the truck is unlocked, the unit powers on. If it's locked it powers down. Startup time is relatively quick (~8 seconds from power up), and it can be set to boot directly into CarPlay. It's responsive, and the audio quality sounds comparable to the direct bluetooth connection to the Rivian infotainment. It also supports screen mirroring via AirPlay or MirrorLink, which is a nice touch. When parked you can easily stream video from your phone.

The only big issue I've had is occasional choppiness with the bluetooth connection from the RoadTop to the Rivian. I know the problem lies here because other outputs work fine. It's intermittent, and reconnecting often fixes the issue. I asked RoadTop support about this. They sent me a firmware update to try, but I can't seem to get it to install. I'm waiting on a follow-up from them now.

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And now I'll attempt to preempt many of the comments...

Why not just use a phone mount?
I prefer the CarPlay interface when driving. The whole point of CarPlay was to prevent phone use while driving. I also don't like putting my phone in a dedicated spot every time I get in a car. If a phone mount works for you, great! I just wanted to show an alternative.

What if Rivian adds CarPlay in the future?
Fantastic, I welcome that. Obviously this solution is not ideal. Nothing would make me happier than seeing them come to their senses on phone integration.

This looks dumb. Do you really need CarPlay this bad?
Look, I don't love having to resort to this. I agree it's not beautiful or elegant. The power cord and mount are not pleasing to look at. Having yet another screen in the truck is redundant. But ultimately I will sacrifice aesthetic for function. The native infotainment does not serve me well. CarPlay does. If you're happy with the system in its current state, good for you. For those of us who aren't this is an option.
This was a game changer for me, thank you. I was close to selling my R1S given the poor phone integration. Any luck solving the skipping/spotty Bluetooth connection? I have the same issue. Thank you again!
 
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This worked perfectly-no more Bluetooth “skipping” - thank you! Keeping the Rivian :)
 

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Just bought this, hopefully I'll receive a V2 unit as well and will be reaching out to also get the firmware files.

Was going to wait until Rivian received USB Audio support but I can't wait anymore since the infotainment is frustrating for me. Will just use bluetooth to the head unit for now until Rivian hopefully gains USB Audio support in the future.
 

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I am curious as to the Bluetooth connectivity. When I have tried to connect other third party products (other than typical cell phones) such as SXM by Bluetooth my Rivian would not even recognize the item as a Bluetooth device let alone pair with it. I wonder whether the problem is the version of Bluetooth being used (although they are suppose to be backward compatible) or perhaps deleting your cell phone from the Rivian opens up a method?
 
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I am curious as to the Bluetooth connectivity. When I have tried to connect other third party products (other than typical cell phones) such as SXM by Bluetooth my Rivian would not even recognize the item as a Bluetooth device let alone pair with it. I wonder whether the problem is the version of Bluetooth being used (although they are suppose to be backward compatible) or perhaps deleting your cell phone from the Rivian opens up a method?
I think that’s a quirk of the Sirius receiver Bluetooth modules. Not sure what the issue is, but I do know both RoadTop units and Android tablets have no issues connecting to the Rivian Bluetooth.
 

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Interestingly the camp speaker will recognize and pair with SXM Bluetooth and generic Bluetooth transmitters but the infotainment center will not.
 

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Thanks @astonius for the files, they worked perfect.

Took two 6 hour trips over the past few days with this setup, worked perfect. Had 0 issues with it during the trip and it was quite funny having ABRP navigation on CarPlay be more accurate than rivians Nav. Rivians nav kept being adamant that I wasn’t going to make it and ABRP stated the entire way that I’d make it with 18% battery remaining. The entire trip ABRP was within 1% accuracy of the truck. Was also nice to have my garage door show up when I got close to my house and show me if it’s open or closed since I have it in HomeKit.
Sucks that I’ve had to add another screen to the truck, but now I have basic functionality that every other vehicle offers so that’s a plus.
 
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Hi CarPlay (and Android Auto) friends. I'm currently testing a newer off-the-shelf solution for the R1T. It's the Carpuride W103. It's a similar form factor to the RoadTop though a bit bigger, both in screen size and physical size. It also claims to support the same killer feature: bluetooth audio transmission back to the Rivian infotainment. Unfortunately I cannot get the bluetooth connection to work at the moment and have reached out to Carpuride support to see if there is a new software version available. It's clearly using a different software stack than the RoadTop. I believe it's Android-based rather than Linux-based. I'll provide an update on my findings, but in case anyone stumbled upon that unit or this thread in the meantime I wanted to share I have one and will provide a comparison to the RoadTop.
 

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Hi CarPlay (and Android Auto) friends. I'm currently testing a newer off-the-shelf solution for the R1T. It's the Carpuride W103. It's a similar form factor to the RoadTop though a bit bigger, both in screen size and physical size. It also claims to support the same killer feature: bluetooth audio transmission back to the Rivian infotainment. Unfortunately I cannot get the bluetooth connection to work at the moment and have reached out to Carpuride support to see if there is a new software version available. It's clearly using a different software stack than the RoadTop. I believe it's Android-based rather than Linux-based. I'll provide an update on my findings, but in case anyone stumbled upon that unit or this thread in the meantime I wanted to share I have one and will provide a comparison to the RoadTop.
Appreciate your efforts, hoping you'll have better luck that I did. I've given up and will ride someone else's coattails.?
 

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This worked perfectly-no more Bluetooth “skipping” - thank you! Keeping the Rivian :)
Quick update… now whenever I use CarPlay and the phone app, everyone on the other end hears themselves echoing back. Have not found a solve yet.
 
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Quick update… now whenever I use CarPlay and the phone app, everyone on the other end hears themselves echoing back. Have not found a solve yet.
Yeah, I experienced that as well with the RoadTop... Never found a solution unfortunately.
 
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I knew there was a complex Raspberry Pi hack for Teslas using the web browser to run CarPlay, but it looks like Carlinkit (the makers of wireless CarPlay adapters for wired-only cars) has created an out-of-the-box solution now: https://carlinkitcarplay.com/products/carlinkit-t2c-tesla-wireless-apple-carplay-adapter.

From the videos it's clearly sluggish, but at least it's functional. I also saw they are releasing a 2.0 version which removes the SIM card requirement.

For them to build something similar for Rivian we would at a minimum need a web browser which is accessible while driving and the ability to remain connected to a wifi network while driving.
 
 








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