? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

[R1Tom]

From the email Rivian sent a few minutes ago:

We’re collaborating with Tesla to open charging for Rivian vehicles at more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across The United States and Canada.

Starting as early as Spring 2024, we’ll offer an NACS adapter that allows you to charge at Tesla charging sites. In 2025, Rivian will incorporate NACS charge ports as standard in R1T and R1S, and offer a corresponding CCS adapter. No matter which charging port is built into your Rivian vehicle, you’ll soon have access to over 25,000 DC fast chargers spanning Rivian Adventure Network, Tesla Superchargers and other third-party CCS networks.

What is the NACS?
The North American Charging Standard is an electric vehicle charging connector designed by Tesla.

How will I find Tesla charging sites?
Once the NACS adapter is available for your Rivian vehicle, we’ll add available NACS charging sites to Rivian’s digital ecosystem including the Rivian app and in-vehicle navigation.

How does this affect plans for the Rivian Adventure Network?
This collaboration does not affect our plans to expand the Rivian Adventure Network to over 3,500 fast chargers at more than 600 sites. Having access to Tesla’s Superchargers adds even more flexibility and convenience for Rivian drivers on the road.

This agreement makes electric vehicle ownership simpler by offering more ways to fast charge your Rivian vehicle and supports our mission to decarbonize transportation.

If you have questions, we’re here to help. And if you’re taking delivery soon, contact your Guide with questions about your vehicle.

I wonder what the cost will be and what the adapter will look like?

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Reuters

Exclusive: EV maker Rivian to adopt Tesla's charging standard

SAN FRANCISCO, June 20 (Reuters) - Electric vehicle maker Rivian (RIVN.O) said it has agreed to adopt Tesla's (TSLA.O) charging standard, giving customers access to the biggest U.S. charging network and adding momentum to Tesla's bid to set the industry standard.

Customers of Rivian, which has its own small network of fast chargers, will be able to access 12,000 Tesla Superchargers with adapters in the United States and Canada as early as spring 2024, the company said. Rivian also said it would make a Tesla-style charging port standard on its vehicles, starting in 2025.

Tesla has struck comparable deals in recent weeks with General Motors (GM.N) and Ford (F.N). While other automakers get access to Tesla's charging network, Tesla stands to profit from selling power to a bigger group of electric vehicle drivers.

Shares of Irvine, California-based Rivian rose about 3% in premarket trading. Tesla shares, which are up more than 40% since late May when the leading U.S. electric carmaker announced its deal with Ford, were 0.5% higher.

Automakers need access to reliable charging to allay customers' fears of being stranded when a battery runs out of power, but most, with the exception of Tesla, have stayed away from building their own networks.

Installing a network of chargers - and maintaining them - requires substantial investment for still-limited returns because of the relatively small number of EVs automakers other than Tesla have on the road, analysts have said.

Tesla's Superchargers account for about 60% of the total fast chargers available in the United States, according to U.S. Department of Energy.

Services and other revenue, which includes the fees for using Tesla's Superchargers, made up just under 10% of revenue in the past quarter. The company does not break out charging revenue alone.

Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said in a statement the deal would let buyers of Rivian electric pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles "leverage Tesla's expansive Supercharger network."

Tesla has made major strides in displacing a rival standard known as the Combined Charging System (CCS) that had the earlier backing of the Biden administration, which is offering $7.5 billion in funding to speed the deployment of EV chargers in the United States.

Qualifying for some of that federal money had required Tesla to open up its network for charging.

Tesla's charging standard had been proprietary until November, when it made the design and specifications public and rebranded the technology as the North American Charging Standard (NACS).

"It's great to see the industry coming together to adopt the North American Charging Standard," Tesla's senior director of charging infrastructure, Rebecca Tinucci, said in a statement.

Manufacturers and operators of CCS chargers such as ABB E-mobility North America, a unit of Swiss industrial firm ABB (ABBN.S), Tritium DCFC (DCFC.O), EVgo (EVGO.O) and FreeWire have raced to announce the addition of NACS plugs to their charging stations since the Ford and GM announcements.

Rivian, which makes the R1T pickup truck and the R1S SUV, will continue to expand its own charging network, the company said. The company had previously said it plans to build more than 3,500 charging stations.

China, the world's largest market for electric vehicles, has its own charging standard. Automakers in Japan such as Toyota (7203.T) and Nissan (7201.T) have pushed another standard known as CHAdeMo.

Is there a recommended adapt or to plug us into any Tesla charger now?

 

[Electrified Outdoors]

Great news!

 

[MP3Mike]

Is there a recommended adapt or to plug us into any Tesla charger now?

No. The adapter is supposed to be available "as early as Spring 2024." I'd expect it to be late. (I'm sure there are software changes Rivian will need to make to support automatic billing with Superchargers as well.)

 

[R1Tom]

I wouldn't consider it a waste of money. If Rivian can focus the RAN buildout in more remote places, that'll really help enjoy this vehicle even more and unlock more adventures. I frequently use my R1T for what it was built for and I'm usually stuck with slow DCFC (62kw) or L2 while out there

That part makes sense. But the chargers in urban areas around SoCal don't make alot of sense to me. And any other urban areas.

 

[Zoidz]

Where are 4 milling new users going to come from? Certainly not from Ford, GM, or Rivian as even combined they haven't sold 4 million EVs in North America.

Slight mix up of terminology - 4 million TOTAL EVs by end of 2024, most potentially competing for Supercharger stations, with some locations already saturated by Tesla owners. Roughly 2 million new users.

 

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[theyoungone]

Welp, I will officially be delaying my delivery until 2025 ??‍

 

[bd5400]

Did you get the same e-mail as I did?

If people have to use a CCS adapter to use RAN that'll be the stupidest thing Rivian has done so far.

Rivian has two versions of the email. The one I got as an owner doesn’t mention NACS being incorporated into the vehicle. The one I got on my email address I used to sign up for a First Drive demo mentions NACS being incorporated into the vehicle. I guess they don’t think it’s necessary for current owners to know they are replacing the charging port.

 

[kayabusa]

Welp, I will officially be delaying my delivery until 2025 ??‍

Just because of a plug style ? You can use an adaptor available in 2024....

 

[docwhiz]

Perhaps. But this quick adoption by so many companies looks like a massive overload of the Telsa Supercharger vehicle capacity to me when 2024 comes. Telsa owners should be getting pissed right now.

Teslas are 80% of EVs on the road. Adding the remaining 20% won't break anything.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Rivian has two versions of the email. The one I got as an owner doesn’t mention NACS being incorporated into the vehicle. The one I got on my email address I used to sign up for a First Drive demo mentions NACS being incorporated into the vehicle. I guess they don’t think it’s necessary for current owners to know they are replacing the charging port.

hey, you're right. I got both of them. Decided to axe my second R1S reservation anyway. I don't like the cart being put before the horse on the standard and don't want to have to use an adapter in either direction. Just something else to go wrong, or get damaged, or forget in a different vehicle.

 

[docwhiz]

You will see tesla owners including myself going to CCS charging network

Tesla network is cheaper.

 

[Zoidz]

Teslas are 80% of EVs on the road. Adding the remaining 20% won't break anything.

Percentage is dropping and will continue to drop as other brand sales increase.

Additionally, as EV price drops, more people who don't have the ability to charge at home (apartment dwellers) will be buying EVs, increasing demand for public stations.

 

[RWerksman]

Teslas are 80% of EVs on the road. Adding the remaining 20% won't break anything.

Considering how fast that Tesla is rolling these things out, I think we'll be fine. Seriously. You need to look. There are over 50 NEW sites just this month, with hundreds of plugs:

https://supercharge.info/changes


It wouldn't surprise me if that was more than the entire rest of the industry combined.

Tesla network is cheaper.

That is tremendously misleading unless you have a Tesla with included free charging. It on average is about $0.10 - $0.20 more per kw than competitors such as EA or Blink.

Here is a thread on TMC about just this topic. It branches off to different ones if you want to read more about it.

This is a convenience play, not a cost saver.

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