Saw a Cybertruck on the road ...

[NY_Rob]

I think people are over-estimating the durability of stainless steel. It will dent and scratch and those blemishes will be very hard to correct.

A US nickle is 1.95mm thick according to the US Mint, so add another 50% to it's thickness and you will still be a little under the (advertised) 3.0 mm thickness of the cold rolled Stainless CT exterior. Agreed that if it gets a dent it will be difficult to repair.. but it's going to take more than the occasional adjacent car door opening on it to dent it.

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[SANZC02]

A US nickle is 1.95mm thick according to the US Mint, so add another 50% to it's thickness and you will still be a little under the (advertised) 3.0 mm thickness of the cold rolled Stainless CT exterior. Agreed that if it gets a dent it will be difficult to repair.. but it's going to take more than the occasional adjacent car door opening on it to dent it.

The 3mm claim was when it was an exoskeleton design. I think what people were seeing in the factory pictures it is more of a standard body on frame design. To have the entire truck made of 3mm stainless steel would be extremely heavy. My Model S with a 75 kW battery weighs 4500 lbs and it has paper thin aluminum as a skin with zero steel in the body panels. Unless they want to take the heavyweight title from the hummer EV the panels will need to be substantially thinner.

They may have a couple of panels that thick but I’d be surprised if more than the door skins are.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I have a R1T and have a reservation on the cybertruck #780,000 so would be years before getting it. I as do millions of other folks just do not agree with the ugly notion, I see it as an aerodynamic work of art. Many feel the rivian headlight are ugly too, I don't. People are just uncomfortable with too much change too rapidly. On this forum when I see folks bashing the cybertruck it is almost seems as if they are fearful that the cybertruck specs may be so incredible that they think it as ugly to justify going with another brand. I personally would welcome a truck that is not so delicate that I have to overthink where I park (my rivian) as to prevent door dings etc.. it might be a welcome change to be incased in rocketship grade stainless steel. To each there own.

I think this post is a misunderstanding of the concept of embracing change. The first step when making any change is to ask yourself "is this change better than what we had before". The answer here is no without a doubt. The shape of the cyber truck might be "artistic", after all people have crapped on the floor and labeled it art before or stapled a banana to the wall and called it art, but as far as practical design it falls short.

From the pictures I've seen this was a better concept than reality. Due to the windshield and roof line you can take a nap on the dashboard but all that space is basically useless. The frunk is tiny because of it, which would actually be useful space. Also I cannot personally stand the center screen only cars. It looks cheap and is less convenient to drive than one with an instrument cluster. I shouldn't have to look right in order to see simple stuff like how fast I'm going. Not to mention that the main screen cannot help but be cluttered because of it.

Next we have the cargo area which again thanks to the crazy sloped roofline you cannot gain access to the bed from the sides more or less at all. If you want to use this thing as a truck say goodbye to standing on a tire and reaching in for stuff. Unless you're an acrobat or a rock climber it's not going to happen. I don't want to have to put on my bouldering shoes every time I need something from the bed of my truck.

Finally we have the stainless steel coating. Stainless is pretty great for lots of things but appearance isn't one of them. Just ask anyone who owned a DeLorian. They will tell you about how it will look hazy any time grease or oil or tar get on it. They will tell you about how it still rusts and how you need to use steel wool to clean it. Also you're going to find out pretty quick about what scratches are going to look like. Sure the steel is thick and strong but unless you're going to wrap it give it a couple years and it will look like hammered dog shit.

I'm not at all afraid of the cyber truck and the reality is that unless the specs and pricing are class leading it will become nothing more than a curiosity for collectors and fanboys. Just because people don't like something doesn't mean they are afraid of change. When that change causes something to be worse than the solutions available currently it's smart to not want to make it.

 

[NY_Rob]

The 3mm claim was when it was an exoskeleton design. I think what people were seeing in the factory pictures it is more of a standard body on frame design. To have the entire truck made of 3mm stainless steel would be extremely heavy. My Model S with a 75 kW battery weighs 4500 lbs and it has paper thin aluminum as a skin with zero steel in the body panels. Unless they want to take the heavyweight title from the hummer EV the panels will need to be substantially thinner.

They may have a couple of panels that thick but I’d be surprised if more than the door skins are.

Can only go by what they have published.. so far. If it does turn out to be 3.0mm Cold Rolled Stainless as advertised it will be a tank! Might actually be able to park within a couple of hundred feet of the store entrances for a change vs. out in left field in the boonies..

 

[cmugler]

I think this post is a misunderstanding of the concept of embracing change. The first step when making any change is to ask yourself "is this change better than what we had before". The answer here is no without a doubt. The shape of the cyber truck might be "artistic", after all people have crapped on the floor and labeled it art before or stapled a banana to the wall and called it art, but as far as practical design it falls short.

From the pictures I've seen this was a better concept than reality. Due to the windshield and roof line you can take a nap on the dashboard but all that space is basically useless. The frunk is tiny because of it, which would actually be useful space. Also I cannot personally stand the center screen only cars. It looks cheap and is less convenient to drive than one with an instrument cluster. I shouldn't have to look right in order to see simple stuff like how fast I'm going. Not to mention that the main screen cannot help but be cluttered because of it.

Next we have the cargo area which again thanks to the crazy sloped roofline you cannot gain access to the bed from the sides more or less at all. If you want to use this thing as a truck say goodbye to standing on a tire and reaching in for stuff. Unless you're an acrobat or a rock climber it's not going to happen. I don't want to have to put on my bouldering shoes every time I need something from the bed of my truck.

Finally we have the stainless steel coating. Stainless is pretty great for lots of things but appearance isn't one of them. Just ask anyone who owned a DeLorian. They will tell you about how it will look hazy any time grease or oil or tar get on it. They will tell you about how it still rusts and how you need to use steel wool to clean it. Also you're going to find out pretty quick about what scratches are going to look like. Sure the steel is thick and strong but unless you're going to wrap it give it a couple years and it will look like hammered dog shit.

I'm not at all afraid of the cyber truck and the reality is that unless the specs and pricing are class leading it will become nothing more than a curiosity for collectors and fanboys. Just because people don't like something doesn't mean they are afraid of change. When that change causes something to be worse than the solutions available currently it's smart to not want to make it.

To each their own, I find my R1t to be difficult to carry 2 electric bikes covered in back, there is not enough height or length in the bed as with the handlebars it will not fit with the cover closed and the tailgate has to be open for the bikes to fit. I will sacrifice some front space for greater aerodynamics any day. Also the cybertruck vault will have significantly greater storage space than the bed of R1T. I have a model 3 and have no issues with the single center screen and the interface is much better than my rivian plus I can check my emails with 2 clicks on the screen.
The purpose of my reply was to try to understand why so many people have a need to bash the cybertruck so often even before the final specs are released, I have a feeling many of you basher's will be driving one in ten years. We all want a good electric pickup, competition is good and constantly saying it is ugly seems rather unconstructive just as telling your neighbor his wife is ugly, makes no sense to me and seems to have no constructive purpose.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

To each their own, I find my R1t to be difficult to carry 2 electric biles covered in back, there is not enough height or length in the bed as with the handlebars it will not fit with the cover closed and the tailgate has to be open for the bikes to fit. I will sacrifice some front space for greater aerodynamics any day. Also the cybertruck vault will have significantly greater storage space in the back. I have a model 3 and have no issues with the single center screen and the interface is much better than my rivian.
The purpose of my reply was to try to understand why so many people have a need to bash the cybertruck so often even before the final specs are released, I have a feeling many of you bashers will be driving one in ten years. We all want a good electric pickup, competition is good and constantly saying it is ugly seems rather unconstructive to me just as telling your neighbor his wife is ugly, makes no sense to me.

How do you know your bikes are going to fit in the cyber truck? No such specs exist yet to my knowledge so the "much greater space" statement really is totally unsupported at this point in time. I severely doubt that a bicycle will fit with the tonneau up on the cyber truck. I found the interface of Tesla to be less intuitive than Rivian's so that probably comes down to what you're used to rather than an actual efficiency. I had the Rivian a year before ever driving a Tesla and I'm assuming you had your Tesla first.

Saying the cyber truck is ugly isn't at all like commenting about your neighbor's wife. I don't think about sleeping with my neighbors but you want us to consider the equivalent with the cyber truck. That's not really a valid analogy in my book. I will be relatively safe in saying I won't be driving a cybertruck in 10 years and I will go so far as to say the cyber truck might not even be made in 10 years. I think it is ugly, and more importantly than ugly it doesn't really seem to be doing anything better than what's available now and quite possibly will come with some major flaws due to its design.

 

[VSG]

Every time I read a Cybertruck discussion I am reminded of this:

Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know.

About the only thing anyone knows for sure about the Cybertruck is its appearance (and even that keeps changing), so really what more is there to talk about until they start delivering?

Frankly, two years ago we were told (among other things) that the Cybertruck was going to:

1. Ship before the R1T.
2. Have about twice the range of the R1T.
3. Cost about half as much as the R1T.

None of those were true. So I am going to reserve my judgement on everything else about the Cybertruck until they actually produce something.

I don't see how people can say things like this:

Can only go by what they have published.. so far.

because NO, we CAN'T go by what they have published so far. We KNOW for a fact that many of the things they have published so far are wrong. We don't know what is correct and what isn't anymore. A lot could be accurate, but we won't know until they actually deliver something. I am unwilling to die on the hill of "Tesla said it so it must be true".

As far as the things we know we don't know (the "known unknowns"):

• We don't know when it will ship.
• We don't know how much it will cost.
• We don't know what trim/performance packages will be available.
• We don't know what the range will be.
• We don't know the HP/0-60/tow capacity.
• We don't know dimensions.
• We don't know kWh/mi.
• We don't know how much it weighs.
• We don't know how many they will build in the first year.

But I will make a prediction here - I predict that the Cybertruck, when it actually ships, will be the the vehicle that is most likely to be wrapped. I think people will see it as a blank slate for customization, and that the biggest advantage to the unpainted exterior is that people will feel more inclined to spend the money to get the color/pattern that best suits them (and incidentally making the finish more vulnerable than it had simply been painted ...). I think we will see a proliferation of novelty wraps for the Cybertruck, like the F150 wrap shown above. You heard it here first.

 

[mini2nut]

To all of the CT naysayers I can tell you this. I have seen the Cybertruck concept in the flesh and it looks WAY better in person. I mean WAAAAAAAY better. Don't let the 2D photos and videos initially steer you into the ugly, revolting, SS door stop, designed by an 8-year old, etc. camp.

After the general public's initial reaction to the polarizing design it will grow on them. Give the public some time.

If, and that's a big if, the Cybertruck is priced below the R1T and Lightning pickup truck shoppers will look past the styling. Why? Because the Cybertruck would offer more "bang for the buck" than the competition.

I'm confident that Tesla is secretly designing a SS Cybervan. With almost 2 million CT reservations the decision is a no brainer.

2024 Cybertrucks are multiplying in TX

 

[freshpow]

To all of the CT naysayers I can tell you this. I have seen the Cybertruck concept in the flesh and it looks WAY better in person. I mean WAAAAAAAY better. Don't let the 2D photos and videos initially steer you into the ugly, revolting, SS door stop, designed by an 8-year old, etc. camp.

After the general public's initial reaction to the polarizing design it will grow on them. Give the public some time.

If, and that's a big if, the Cybertruck is priced below the R1T and Lightning pickup truck shoppers will look past the styling. Why? Because the Cybertruck would offer more "bang for the buck" than the competition.

I'm confident that Tesla is secretly designing a SS Cybervan. With almost 2 million CT reservations the decision is a no brainer.

2024 Cybertrucks are multiplying in TX

Wow. They sure are beautiful all covered up!

If I felt as strongly as you do about the CT's mass appeal, I would design a custom fit (somewhere between a queen/king) air mattress for the dash and watch it print money. ?

 

[COdogman]

To all of the CT naysayers I can tell you this. I have seen the Cybertruck concept in the flesh and it looks WAY better in person. I mean WAAAAAAAY better. Don't let the 2D photos and videos initially steer you into the ugly, revolting, SS door stop, designed by an 8-year old, etc. camp.

After the general public's initial reaction to the polarizing design it will grow on them. Give the public some time.

If, and that's a big if, the Cybertruck is priced below the R1T and Lightning pickup truck shoppers will look past the styling. Why? Because the Cybertruck would offer more "bang for the buck" than the competition.

I'm confident that Tesla is secretly designing a SS Cybervan. With almost 2 million CT reservations the decision is a no brainer.

2024 Cybertrucks are multiplying in TX

No offense, but there is zero proof of 2 million reservations. The source for those numbers is a notorious liar and exaggerator.

This vehicle is supposed to start deliveries in the next couple months and there are no official specs or dimensions or pricing announced for it. If there are 2 millions reservations, many could be scared off by any of those factors even if they love the design of the truck.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Shocked by all the negativity here. Wrap shows perception v reality. Not that much different in form factor from Std pickup, but obviously completely different in every way. More CTs or R1Ts sold by YE 2025?

I think the Cybertruck existing and being unabashedly produced close to the original prototype is very encouraging. Even my three year old can become an automotive designer.

 

[mini2nut]

The Cybertruck is still missing three essentials: New MSRP's, trim levels and specifications.

Rumor is the huge announcement is coming towards the end of September. Reservation holders have been sitting on pins and needles ever since Tesla deleted the MSRP's from the Cybertruck's website ordering page.

Tesla is going to be facing major backlash and cancellations from Cybertruck reservation holders if the revised MSRP's are in the stratosphere.

 

[Cascadian]

How difficult will it be to keep the stainless steel panels looking nice?
You should see our fridge door after my son has made himself a PB&J sandwich!
I see a lot of wraps in the CT future.

 

[SANZC02]

The Cybertruck's elephant in the room: New MSRP's, trim levels and specifications.

Rumor is the huge announcement is coming towards the end of September. Reservation holders have been sitting on pins and needles ever since Tesla deleted the MSRP's from the Cybertruck's website ordering page.

Yes, odd that there are no final specs or any kind of pricing. Based on an Electrek article a couple of days ago there is a rumor of a special delivery event the end of September which is only 4-6 weeks away.

“Based on previous vehicle launches, Tesla is expected to deliver only a small number of Cybertrucks at a delivery event that will likely happen at the end of September.

Considering Tesla has yet to announce final pricing and specs for the electric pickup truck, those deliveries are expected to be to a handful of employees and company insiders, like board members.

Tesla should announce those final pricing and specs details at the event.”

 

[mini2nut]

The Cybertruck's SS alloy is supposed to be very close to what is used on the Space X Starship.

I'm confident a SS care and maintenance section will be included in the Cybertruck owners manual.

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