Tesla supercharger access delayed for other EV brands

[Dark-Fx]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-supercharger-access-delayed-for-gm-polestar-next-crop-of-ev-brands

Was wondering when news about this was going to break.

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[COdogman]

Mr. Muscles strikes again

 

[Rivtony]

Most likely Volvo, GM, and Polestar realized that they'll not be able to provide the Tesla adapters to their customer any time soon.

 

[JayinNJ]

Most likely Volvo, GM, and Polestar realized that they'll not be able to provide the Tesla adapters to their customer any time soon.

Also the team responsible for interoperability and getting them on board disappeared.

 

[Jiji]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-supercharger-access-delayed-for-gm-polestar-next-crop-of-ev-brands

Was wondering when news about this was going to break.

Based on the slow Ford and Rivian rollouts I already assumed this to be true but I don’t know that I would consider pcmag.com as an authoritative source. So far the only other news reports I can find are quoting pcmag.com as their source so I’ll wait for someone better with their own reporting before putting in the confirmed news category.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Based on the slow Ford and Rivian rollouts I already assumed this to be true but I don’t know that I would consider pcmag.com as an authoritative source. So far the only other news reports I can find are quoting pcmag.com as their source so I’ll wait for someone better with their own reporting before putting in the confirmed news category.

I mean, they reference conversations with the companies mentioned. That's not good enough for you?

 

[Jiji]

I mean, they reference conversations with the companies mentioned. That's not good enough for you?

Just weird, like this snippet

Earlier today, Sanaz Marbley, director of global strategic technology communications at GM, said adapters would be "available to purchase through our GM vehicle brand apps later this year," suggesting that it too might miss a spring 2024 rollout. She later clarified that the timeline is still spring 2024. GM does not have "a specific date" for when adapters will go out, but we have about three weeks until it's officially summer.

Which is it? GM says it is still on for spring so I don’t think you should claim they are delayed when GM actually said adapters will be available for purchase later this year. Volvo didn’t comment at all so don’t lump them in and Polestar said this

The Tesla website says Volvo, GM, and Polestar drivers will get access to 15,000 eligible stations in spring 2024, but Polestar tells PCMag it won't happen until later this year. "The timeline has been adjusted to later this summer, but we don’t have further details to share at this time," a Polestar rep says.

which might be news or, yawn, non-news. Not as as bad as some but not up there in upper echelons of breaking journalism when older articles on Polestar access can be found that stated mid-2024 access, for example

Polestar Announces Switch To NACS In North America From 2025

or

Polestar EVs get Tesla charge port in 2025 Supercharger access in 2024


I just happen to be picky about where I get my news and PCMag isn’t my go to source, YMMV.

 

[Budman]

Can you say “lawsuit “.

future headline:
GM sues Tesla for breach of contract.

 

[R1Tom]

I am still only one it seems to see the delay as a potential pull back of access to even Rivian and Ford. I don't know the money that is changing hands, but it seems to me, from Tesla perspective, I would see a quick cash influx, which they don't need, for a permanent loss of competitive advantage. Maybe the money makes sense....not sure. But the longterm loss of competitive advantage is real.

And with Musk capability to make radical changes....I still see a significant potential they pull the plug on Rivian and Ford access, face the lawsuits, etc... to get back that competitive advantage.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I am still only one it seems to see the delay as a potential pull back of access to even Rivian and Ford. I don't know the money that is changing hands, but it seems to me, from Tesla perspective, I would see a quick cash influx, which they don't need, for a permanent loss of competitive advantage. Maybe the money makes sense....not sure. But the longterm loss of competitive advantage is real.

And with Musk capability to make radical changes....I still see a significant potential they pull the plug on Rivian and Ford access, face the lawsuits, etc... to get back that competitive advantage.

Tesla did lay off a fairly significant amount of employees at the buffalo manufacturing facility where they supposedly make the adapters. Would not be surprised to find out the adapter production was severely affected.

 

[Redline]

Waits for Elmo Cult Bros to come in and tell us this was always the plan.

Fucking laughable and so obvious.

 

[R1Tom]

Tesla did lay off a fairly significant amount of employees at the buffalo manufacturing facility where they supposedly make the adapters. Would not be surprised to find out the adapter production was severely affected.

I agree....but the result desired might have been what I am saying....not the cost savings of eliminating those jobs or the retaliation against an employee who wouldn't follow orders....

 

[Jiji]

Tesla did lay off a fairly significant amount of employees at the buffalo manufacturing facility where they supposedly make the adapters. Would not be surprised to find out the adapter production was severely affected.

About 300 out of 2000 employee were let go. This facility is where Tesla Solar operates, where employees label video for Autopilot/FSD, a power electronics group and the Supercharger manufacturing.

I don’t think they do the NACS adapter manufacturing there, looks an awful like the MagicDock design for which they might need a few thousand, doesn't seem like a number that you build an in-house production line for what would be a short term band-aid.

Same holds true for the NACS adapters, why wouldn't you use a specialty manufacturer for a short term band-aid that becomes unnecessary within a year? Especially when you have captive customers that provide or resell them to the vehicle owners and can’t beat you up on the price.

This is just my common sense thoughts on the subject. I know zero about parts manufacturing but just can’t understand making the capital expenditures for what is a short-term, non-strategic adapter.

 

[HeresRonnie]

I’m going to be very interested to see how satisfied everyone who called for NACS adoption and supercharger access will fill once all these automakers have access to Tesla Superchargers. Whenever I drive by the supercharger in Lynnwood or the Auburn supermall here there always seems to be a decent amount of Tesla’s charging or even a line of cars waiting to charge. Adding in tons of new vehicles is going to be even more fUn. Just judging by the few complaints already from Tesla owners about Fords and Rivians, I wonder if they will start wishing other automakers go back to CCS.

 

[Kenmecca]

Don't like to see EV market bad news, but for those of us that have adapters (I have A2Z) will enjoy less congestion this summer

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